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    Why I won't buy from a pet store

    I dont think I would call ASPCA but i thought maybe some organization can just get this snake to a herp vet before it dies in that cage. The owner told me everyone including him are afraid of snakes. I just do not understand if everyone is afraid to care for it why must you order them to your store??
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    Some of you are missing the forest for the trees. I think you're doing it on purpose.

    The cost is irrelevant to this conversation but is not irrelevant in determining whether or not a store is going to take it to a vet. That's just the way it is.

    And for those of you too dense to have gotten it the first few times, let me reiterate: get FACTS first THEN take action. Don't just react to what you see, unless of course your goal is to look good to those who also react to emotion before knowing anything about a given situation. If that was the goal, a couple of you were quite successful.

    Call whomever you wish, just remember that you are also adding fuel to a fire with uniformed accusations.

    And the whole baby comparison, still stupid. If you want to take it to brass tacks, don't kill mosquitoes, don't swat flies, don't clean your kitchen counters (there are living bacteria there) and eat nothing that ever drew breath, ingested any type of food or drank any liquid. You can't have it both ways if you're being honest. If ALL life is sacred, then ALL life is sacred. A dying ball python is worth no more, nor less, than the tick you pull off your ass and smash for being a tick.

    Your high horses have made a mess all over this thread. Who's going to clean the crap up? You who made it or will you be leaving your crap for someone else to take care of?
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    Re: Why I won't buy from a pet store

    Quote Originally Posted by coleworld View Post
    The owner told me everyone including him are afraid of snakes.
    So I take it you have gone back and spoken to him again? (I'm assuming that since you didn't mention this earlier) Have you gotten any more information on why the snake is in the condition that it's in?

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    Why I won't buy from a pet store

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    So I take it you have gone back and spoken to him again? (I'm assuming that since you didn't mention this earlier) Have you gotten any more information on why the snake is in the condition that it's in?
    I actually called this morning. I need to go back when another manager is there (tomorrow). I will let you guys know what happens.

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    Why I won't buy from a pet store

    Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Some of you are missing the forest for the trees. I think you're doing it on purpose.

    The cost is irrelevant to this conversation but is not irrelevant in determining whether or not a store is going to take it to a vet. That's just the way it is.

    And for those of you too dense to have gotten it the first few times, let me reiterate: get FACTS first THEN take action. Don't just react to what you see, unless of course your goal is to look good to those who also react to emotion before knowing anything about a given situation. If that was the goal, a couple of you were quite successful.

    Call whomever you wish, just remember that you are also adding fuel to a fire with uniformed accusations.

    And the whole baby comparison, still stupid. If you want to take it to brass tacks, don't kill mosquitoes, don't swat flies, don't clean your kitchen counters (there are living bacteria there) and eat nothing that ever drew breath, ingested any type of food or drank any liquid. You can't have it both ways if you're being honest. If ALL life is sacred, then ALL life is sacred. A dying ball python is worth no more, nor less, than the tick you pull off your ass and smash for being a tick.

    Your high horses have made a mess all over this thread. Who's going to clean the crap up? You who made it or will you be leaving your crap for someone else to take care of?
    Ok well the other ball pythons are fine maybe this store does not know how to get a fussy eater to actually eat. I love snakes. I dont have a passion for raising ticks and mosquitoes or bacteria. If I can save a ball python from dying, heck I will because I have a passion for snakes. And I have a willing to help these creatures no matter the price. I could assist feed and rehydrate this snake myself for very little cost. Your making this more compliacted then it is. I would like peoples opinions on what to do and how to save this snake if I recieve him for free. If I do not, I feel bad for the little fella but it is their responsibility then and I said what I had to say.

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    Re: Why I won't buy from a pet store

    That snake is just suffering so. Its heartbreaking actually. Do you know the address of the store, I live in brooklyn, I can probably go check on it and speak to the manager about it

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    Re: Why I won't buy from a pet store

    That is just ridiculous! What local pet store did you go to?

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    This is so sad. Unfortunatly i have seen ball pythons at at petstore in my city with similar cases. 20 babies in a cage all on the verge of death.I went there when the petstore i work at part time was out of bedding and gave management a real piece of my mind. Its so sad that they either don't see anything wrong in what they are doing or simply do not care.

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    Why I won't buy from a pet store

    Quote Originally Posted by O.C. View Post
    That snake is just suffering so. Its heartbreaking actually. Do you know the address of the store, I live in brooklyn, I can probably go check on it and speak to the manager about it
    Im actually going to school im RI now my home town is Brooklyn. This store was in RI.

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    I'm not saying what is wrong or right, but I do think the snake is well past saving. If anyone does manage to get it to eat, it will likely go into shock and die. It looks small enough to have never had a meal in its' life. If you plan to spend money buying the snake just be aware that death is a very real possibility even if you get it to eat.

    One thing I think everyone needs to keep in perspective is that reptiles will refuse to eat and starve to death. If you put a cat or a dog in a tiny cramped metal cage they will still eat. Their will to survive enormously outweighs their want/need for a nicer place to live. If you don't have the husbandry correct for a bp, as in this case, it will definitely starve to death and it will appear to be by its' own choosing. I really think that's why authorities/rescue groups tend to let stuff like this slide. People don't expect an animal to "choose starvation" when they are offered food, water, and shelter. And lets face it, most people don't have a clue about reptiles, even in rescue groups. Although it is a living creature, and it is terrible that the snake is starving to death, this case is more about lack of education than deliberate neglect. Yes it's frustrating, yes it's upsetting, but the only thing we can do is continue to educate people. Being mean/threatening will not help our cause.

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