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    Re: Why I won't buy from a pet store

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    I wouldn't be able to help myself, I'd go buy him after a quick trip to pick up a tub and cheap supplies even if it meant rearranging a closet for space.
    Exactly. I would MAKE any room possible for this baby. GAH! I can't believe anyone that works in that store hasn't realized that this snake is in serious need of some rehabilitation.
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    He's not going to survive much longer in those conditions.
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    Re: Why I won't buy from a pet store

    Quote Originally Posted by M&NSnakeDen View Post
    Donations aside, I'd go to the store manager & demand they supply me with not only the snake, but all the things I would need to nurse him back to health. If they didn't agree, I'd raise hell & threaten to not only call the ASPCA & have them investigated, but to also post on every forum in the reptile community exposing them for their incredibly poor treatment of their snakes. Guaranteed they'd roll over & agree to give you what you need. No employee in that store that are in their right mind would say that that snake "just missed a few meals & will eat soon." I'm willing to bet that poor thing hasn't eaten much at all in it's short little life.
    Were that my store I'd toss your rude ass out on the street.

    We have NO idea what the story is here. Maybe they've done a lot to help it and it just isn't responding. Maybe they didn't. Before you all go shooting off your yaps try getting some facts. Running to the ASPCA or anyone without know what's really going on is just irresponsible.

    If it's an import, it simply may have come in that way. We don't know. New management or no, facts NEED to be known before people go making a fuss.

    And, if you were to buy that snake and they were responsible for it, you will simply be encouraging them to do the same again. Sad as it is, in the long run it is better for them to eat the loss than for someone else to pay and then lose it.

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    Re: Why I won't buy from a pet store

    Ok, everyone take a deep breath..... Yes that snake is in BAD shape, (surprised it's still alive in that condition) but does that mean that the pet store is neglecting the thing....NO... There is obviously something wrong with it, if it's not eating at that age. And by the way, thats some damn clean aspen for someone to be neglecting a snake on, don't ya think. Look, it happens, sometimes ya get a snake that won't eat. I'm bettin it's ate up with parasites, and they don't want vet bills. Who's gonna spend 200 bucks on a 30 dollar animal....NOT pet stores....They are about the bottom line....

    The only thing I blame them for is displaying the snake in that deathly state. But I don't think any of us have the right to judge, convict and execute this business because he has a reptile that won't eat.

    I've got a ton more to say about this but I'm just gonna shut up.....

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    Re: Why I won't buy from a pet store

    Dang Wilomn ya just beat me too some of what I was tryin to say.....

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    Re: Why I won't buy from a pet store

    Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Were that my store I'd toss your rude ass out on the street.

    We have NO idea what the story is here. Maybe they've done a lot to help it and it just isn't responding. Maybe they didn't. Before you all go shooting off your yaps try getting some facts. Running to the ASPCA or anyone without know what's really going on is just irresponsible.

    If it's an import, it simply may have come in that way. We don't know. New management or no, facts NEED to be known before people go making a fuss.
    I'm sorry, but if that's the case then the snake shouldn't be on the sales floor with a price tag on it. Every shop I know has a back room where sick or unthrifty animals are taken so that they can be treated, kept in a quiet environment so they're not stressed by the flow of humanity wandering by, and they are away from the healthy animals on the floor so that diseases don't spread.

    And, if you were to buy that snake and they were responsible for it, you will simply be encouraging them to do the same again. Sad as it is, in the long run it is better for them to eat the loss than for someone else to pay and then lose it.
    Very true. Paying the store anything for that animal will only encourage more of the same poor behavior if it's the store's fault the animal is in that condition.

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    Shouldn't someone work there that knows these 'animals'? In all fairness, the OP inquired as to the whys of his condition and quite honestly, their answer doesn't wash. If nothing else, this snake should not be displayed for sale while they are 'attempting' to nurse it to health and put some weight on it.

    Ignorance is no excuse for neglect, period.... If you take offense to us letting our emotions dictate how we respond to an obviously distressed and dying snake, I'd say I'm sorry, but I'd be lying.

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    Re: Why I won't buy from a pet store

    Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Were that my store I'd toss your rude ass out on the street.

    We have NO idea what the story is here. Maybe they've done a lot to help it and it just isn't responding. Maybe they didn't. Before you all go shooting off your yaps try getting some facts. Running to the ASPCA or anyone without know what's really going on is just irresponsible.

    If it's an import, it simply may have come in that way. We don't know. New management or no, facts NEED to be known before people go making a fuss.

    And, if you were to buy that snake and they were responsible for it, you will simply be encouraging them to do the same again. Sad as it is, in the long run it is better for them to eat the loss than for someone else to pay and then lose it.

    Use your brains folks, not just your emotions.
    There's absolutely no reason for any pet store to have a snake (or any animal) in THAT bad of shape. I'll gladly be called a rude ass for sticking up for the care of ANY animal and you bet your ass I'd make a fuss if I came across something like that. No hesitations.

    Maybe it did come in that way. Totally possible. But you either A) take it to some sort of rescue society knowing it could get proper MEDICAL care whether it be tube feeds, IV fluids, antibiotics, mite treatments or B) if you're confident enough nurse it back to health in the store, do your company name a favour & DON'T put it on sale display.

    If they've tried & it isn't responding to any feeding attempts, I second my previous comment. You don't let an animal get like that. Take it somewhere where someone can give it far more attention.
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    Re: Why I won't buy from a pet store

    Quote Originally Posted by MsMissy View Post
    Shouldn't someone work there that knows these 'animals'? In all fairness, the OP inquired as to the whys of his condition and quite honestly, their answer doesn't wash. If nothing else, this snake should not be displayed for sale while they are 'attempting' to nurse it to health and put some weight on it.

    Ignorance is no excuse for neglect, period.... If you take offense to us letting our emotions dictate how we respond to an obviously distressed and dying snake, I'd say I'm sorry, but I'd be lying.
    Ditto to this entire post.
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    While I agree that it shouldn't be out on the floor, we don't know what the situation is at that store. Maybe they don't have a back room. Maybe the new manager is not a reptile person. We are reptile people and know just by looking that it's in poor shape. Again, facts before stupidity. We don't have facts, we have emotions. I prefer facts.

    That snake probably should be euthanized. As was mentioned above, it's a 30.00 dollar snake. While we might prefer that it be treated, it makes more business sense to put it down.

    Pointing this out to the management, OFFERING to take it off their hands, without "forcing" them to give you anything, which was a joke to begin with, might produce a better outcome, but that snake looks pretty bad. Why jump right to aggressive righteousness when you have a chance of educating someone who simply doesn't know better? Jump down the guys throat and why should he give a rat's patootie what you think?
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