Blue eye Lucy and black eye Lucy

[Kodama16]

What would happen if you bread a blue eye Lucy male (butter x majave) with a black eye Lucy female (super fire)?

[don15681]

everything would have fire in it and with the bel (Mojave x butter) that snake will produce mojaves or butters no normal. so would would get fire mojaves and fire butters

[Royal Hijinx]

You will get Fire Mojos and Fire Butters.

[Kodama16]

Would any of them be Lucy though?

[Dave Green]

No, Fire Mojaves and Fire Lessers are not white snakes.

[timely.grace]

Forgive me for trying to hijack the thread, but I was just wondering what pairings make the legit pure white BEL?
I know the mojave & lesser to another snake of the same morph works, but I've heard that with the mojaves, some babies tend to get a bit of a grey head?

[Konotashi]

Forgive me for trying to hijack the thread, but I was just wondering what pairings make the legit pure white BEL?
I know the mojave & lesser to another snake of the same morph works, but I've heard that with the mojaves, some babies tend to get a bit of a grey head?

Inexperienced, far from expert speaking here.

But from my understanding, you can pair two mojaves and you may possibly get BELs, but are more likely to get ivories. (Or just ivories?)

You can also pair lesser X lesser or butter X butter, but from what I've read, these are very likely to be bug eyed. If they're not born bug eyed, they can grow to be bug eyed.

Lesser X Butter
Mojave X Butter
Mojave X Lesser

I could be (more than likely am) wrong, so PLEASE feel free to correct me! Though I don't need to tell you guys that.

[timely.grace]

what exactly is bug eyed? is it a serious deformation that shortens lifespan or more of an esthetic issue?

[Konotashi]

what exactly is bug eyed? is it a serious deformation that shortens lifespan or more of an esthetic issue?

Bug eyes are when the eyes stick out much farther than they should. I'm sure there's a more correct, technical definition, but that's what they look like.

It's more aesthetic, but very undesirable. Personally, I think it looks disgusting and I wouldn't buy one. I don't think they should be bred, and if breeders know that certain combos (butter X butter, for example) can cause such issues, I don't think such morphs should be paired.
If you wanted a BEL, would you want one because it's pretty (i.e., has normal eyes), or just to say you have a BEL? Personally, I would want one that looked normal (as far as the eyes go). Quality....

Here's a super butter. (Pic is from Google)

[timely.grace]

Oh, I see what you mean!
Definitely going for quality over the name. I have what I believe to be a male mojave and a male lesser, but I'm not 100% certain. The Lesser could possibly be a female. My sexing technique is still in the works. I'll be transporting them in the next couple days to visit my breeder who will properly do it and teach me her ways haha. Lesser x mojo would work, yeah? bits of grey head, though, right?

My breeding endeavours are still at least 1-2 years away, I'm just wanting to figure out my goal pairings & purchase the morphs I need to purchase now haha.