100% Het for Carmel Male

[Mephibosheth1]

So my snake Mycroft is a 100% Het for Carmel make BP. I'm still trying to assimilate the information in the stickies on morphs, but what could I breed him with to make interesting snakelings?? Also does anyone have a picture of what a homozygous Carmel looks like??

I'm not ready to breed him yet or anything, but am definitely interested in trying in the future...

[dr del]

Hi,

To get anything visual you would have to breed him to another het caramel ( I'd advise against a homozygous female caramel because of the kinking problem ).

And caramels look like this;

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...aramel-albino/

[Mephibosheth1]

How would I go about trying to find a female for him to breed (besides purchasing one myself)?? Obviously just advertising in Craigslist could attract unscrupulous snake owners...

[dr del]

Um.

The only way you could breed him to anything without buying more snakes would be a breeding loan.

Have a search on here to see what peoples experiences and advice about those is.


dr del

[Mephibosheth1]

Um.

The only way you could breed him to anything without buying more snakes would be a breeding loan.

Have a search on here to see what peoples experiences and advice about those is.


dr del

Thanks for the input; I'm probably gonna wait a while and see how well I'm able to care for the one and them see about feeling out the rest if the forum to see what experiences they've had.

[Mephibosheth1]

Slight necro on this thread, but was wondering some about the different classifications of Carmel that are around...


I was just looking on the "World of Ball Puthons" color guide, and find that there are many, many Carmel color morphs; Carmel pewter, Carmel albino, etc.

are these the result of breeding a Carmel to one of hear other colors, or are these variants of the Carmel gene itself?? In other words, will Carmel x Carmel crosses produce these, or would it require Carmel x Pewter, etc??

thanks for the help; It's pretty confusing trying to understand snake morphs. The genetic terms and breed shorthand are so different than those used in mice

[KING JAMES]

To get a caramel pewter you would have to cross your het caramel with a het caramel pewter to get a 1/16 chance to get a caramel pewter in an egg (Visual Caramel * Pewter would not give you any visual caramel babies only hets). Caramel is just short for Caramel Albino unless I am missing something. My best recommendation is to do some reading online as to how recessive and Co-dominant genes work and how you can mix them together.

short thing on codoms http://www.newenglandreptile.com/genetics_codom.html
hits a little on recessive http://www.cranwill.com/faq22.html

[Mephibosheth1]

Ohhhhh......

so is Carmel Albino different than "regular" albino, and how so??

[KING JAMES]

Yes it is. Just a different name for a different set of genes. I guess having albino in its name does make this one a little more confusing.

[BlueMoonExotics]

Caramel is a recessive gene. So to get babies that look like a caramel BOTH parents have to have the gene whether they are visual or het for it. There are a lot of pretty caramels but some people don't care to work with them because of kinking issues or issues with females having slug eggs (non viable eggs). However, I am going to be diving into it anyway with my girl Eve who is (imo) a very pretty Caramel Glow (Caramel + Ghost):