How to clean your Ball Python tank 101 quick video by me :)

[kitedemon]

While I agree with resistant bacteria being a problem I don't think that's much of an issue in this case. The constant use of things like hand sanitizer is a major problem but I doubt this is much of one.

If you actually think about it there are very few "super bugs" out there and we have been globally abusing disinfectants and biocides since we discovered them. It's taken years and exposure of many times more bacteria than any of us can fathom to create these bugs. So the odds that this one person improperly cleaning a small colony of bacteria in their tank is going to inadvertently breed a super bug is astronomical.

Just because you read a scary EPA or CDC study doesn't mean you need to try to scare people cleaning their BPs tank. Why not put up signs near hand sanitizer dispensers, hand out pamphlets outside your doctor's office or visit farms in the area and ask them to stop dumping antibiotics into the cattle's water supply? You know something really useful.

Should OP be properly cleaning his tank? Yes. Is he going to breed a super bug by not doing it correctly? It's inconceivably unlikely.

Oh and since you're asking for data about bleach, I assume you will have no problem producing something showing that such a small colony of bacteria poses a threat when not properly exposed to bleach. I'll wait.

I did actually, a document that clearly says bleach full strength is rendered ineffective if the surface is not pre-cleaned. Why use bleach at all if it is doing nothing?

The point you all have missed is disinfecting dirty means you still have dirty. It DOES nothing at all.

The same for wipe out the same for CHD, CHG, F10sc, iodines, alcohols. None of them work on dirty.

Save your money and don't bother using disinfectants since they are being neutralized faster than they can do anything.






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[mackynz]

I did actually, a document that clearly says bleach full strength is rendered ineffective if the surface is not pre-cleaned. Why use bleach at all if it is doing nothing?

The point you all have missed is disinfecting dirty means you still have dirty. It DOES nothing at all.

You must not have read what I posted correctly, what I was asking for was the study concerning small colonies of bacteria turning into super bugs from improper bleach usage. I have not seen this study yet. If you are so concerned about these things I have to ask, do you wash your hands with soap? Do you brush your teeth? Use mouthwash? Heck, do you shower? If you do then you are contributing daily (hopefully) to the problem of developing super bugs and should maybe take a step back.

And I never disputed he cleaned it wrong. Disinfecting dirty does leave you with dirty, unless you wipe it down. Even still proper procedure should be to wipe down first.

[mackynz]

Oh I'm also wondering how you get your cages 100% clean as well. Following your method will still miss some bacteria. Unless you irradiate your tanks or have a really big autoclave you are just as guilty to contributing to the problem as the next person. But by all means if you have a really big autoclave (which by the way you have been acting here I'm sure you do) I would love to see some pictures. The one's we have at work aren't that big. Snap a few pics for me quick?