Some Brongs!

[fkdmatt]

I know the person that made that video. He is a fine keeper. Soaking animals is part of keeping snakes, whether its before they shed to help, or after they shed, because it had a dry or incomplete shed. If you live on the east coast which I do and so does he, winters can be very dry, even if kept on cypress mulch, sphagnum moss, etc. Most people soak for around 30 minutes, say the animal takes a dump within the first 5 minutes, that can be the results.

To Joe, I'm glad you agree that there are many different ways to keep these animals. You come off like your ways are the only ways. I noticed in one of your videos, you have a Brong that you said has a URI and the temp is 75 degrees. I'm not sure if that's your steady temp, but for a animal with a URI or not that temp is pretty low, and in my experience that seems to cause URI's. Just to add in, I breed my animals, if the husbandry was off and my snakes were not healthy, I'm sure breeding and laying good eggs may be difficult, along with them all having great appetites, and raising them up. I don't run into them problems, with the exception of 1 or 2 animals a year possibly getting sick, which I do what I need to do, to get them back to regular health.

[KMG]

I realize many people soak snakes and im sure he is a fine keeper. I just didn't like the video and how it was titled. I didn't see much use to it. Especially on this thread.

I don't t have to ever soak mine to help with a shed. I mist appropriately and watch my humidity very close. With doing that I get nice full sheds.

[SnowShredder]

That T- is absolutely stunning

[bloodpython_MA]

Gorgeous bloods Matt.

And yea, that is my video that was linked earlier. Like Matt stated, we are on the east coast (I'm from Massachusetts) so humidity is a constant battle. But When I see that one of my bloods or short-tails is out of opaque/beginning to shed, I typically soak them to make sure things go smoothly. That video was recorded in my livingroom (not where I keep my snakes/racks. And she WAS washed before being put back, making assumptions can be very misleading. The girl in that video is also bit over 4' long now and sheds regularly. And if anyone wants to talk further about it, feel free to message me

Again Matt, Gorgeous snakes! Really hope I can pick up some Ocelot stuff from you when things start hatching.

[aahmn]

Is this the Joe posting on here?

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You're attitude toward your snakes is rather disgusting. First of all, there's a LOT of color variation in normals, WC and CB (whether or not they're hets). And to show these cold, stiff snakes and say that you're keeping that "ugly" female as long as she's nice, but add that if she ever bites you'll "cut her ******* head off?" Really? You need to not have snakes.

Sorry, I usually try not to get involved in this stuff, but that comment especially irked me. Horrible...

[KMG]

And yea, that is my video that was linked earlier. Like Matt stated, we are on the east coast (I'm from Massachusetts) so humidity is a constant battle. But When I see that one of my bloods or short-tails is out of opaque/beginning to shed, I typically soak them to make sure things go smoothly. That video was recorded in my livingroom (not where I keep my snakes/racks. And she WAS washed before being put back, making assumptions can be very misleading. The girl in that video is also bit over 4' long now and sheds regularly. And if anyone wants to talk further about it, feel free to message me.

So you help me make my point. YouTube videos are not a good educational tool. You didn't explain that the snake would be cleaned and given a fresh tub. So others like me will watch your video and see you wipe the snake off and place it in a dressed out tub. Why put it back on mulch? Unless it was going to be tossed out you just ruined it by putting a dirty snake on it.

Yea assumptions can mislead but so can pointless videos that teach nothing. The video could have been great. Take that bad situation and go through the process of cleaning the snake and disinfecting the tub. Then somebody may learn something. As you posted it the video is misleading with a poor choice for a title with no educational value.

I'm all for free information and learning from YouTube. But most the videos I have seen are really misleading, misinforming, or just plain dumb. Make a video but make it useful.

Do you always have a bad shed if you don't soak? I'm in Houston and the humidity in my home is super low compared to what some of my snakes require but I don't have to soak. Maybe you are doing extra work that is not needed. I try to leave my snakes alone during a shed and always have nice full sheds. Both my BRB and GTP shed this past week with nothing more than an occasional misting.

[JoeNapoli]

... you have a Brong that you said has a URI and the temp is 75 degrees. I'm not sure if that's your steady temp, but for a animal with a URI or not that temp is pretty low, and in my experience that seems to cause URI's...

thank you for watching the vid, yes 75 was the temp outside and immediately following the view of the thermometer i said out loud and clearly audible that i prefer it ~10 degrees hotter and, within ~1/2hr it was because they were taken indoors; no of course it's not steady temp, and yes low temps contribute to RI which is what i believe caused that snake to fall ill in the first place in the house of her previous owner, she is doing much better under my care now, an hour ago i made a short vid of her choosing to bask in the hotter and drier part of her tank... iL upload it later

[SSGTROUT]

So you help me make my point. YouTube videos are not a good educational tool. You didn't explain that the snake would be cleaned and given a fresh tub. So others like me will watch your video and see you wipe the snake off and place it in a dressed out tub. Why put it back on mulch? Unless it was going to be tossed out you just ruined it by putting a dirty snake on it.

Yea assumptions can mislead but so can pointless videos that teach nothing. The video could have been great. Take that bad situation and go through the process of cleaning the snake and disinfecting the tub. Then somebody may learn something. As you posted it the video is misleading with a poor choice for a title with no educational value.

I'm all for free information and learning from YouTube. But most the videos I have seen are really misleading, misinforming, or just plain dumb. Make a video but make it useful.

Do you always have a bad shed if you don't soak? I'm in Houston and the humidity in my home is super low compared to what some of my snakes require but I don't have to soak. Maybe you are doing extra work that is not needed. I try to leave my snakes alone during a shed and always have nice full sheds. Both my BRB and GTP shed this past week with nothing more than an occasional misting.

I think the video was fine. I understood the intention of it. Sometimes that will indeed happen when soaking a blood python, and it is less than glamorous. Sometimes we as keepers have to help our animals out. If this has to be done by soaking, then so be it. The keeper doesn't really need to be looked down upon because he or she is trying to help the animal, right? I live in Southern California. It is very dry here in the summer and winter. I sometimes have to soak a snake or two. No big deal. In any case, it isn't so much of a humidity issue, but more likely an animal hydration issue anyways. Just some things to think about.

That Matrix is super cool by the way Matt!

[KMG]

I think the video was fine. I understood the intention of it. Sometimes that will indeed happen when soaking a blood python, and it is less than glamorous. Sometimes we as keepers have to help our animals out. If this has to be done by soaking, then so be it. The keeper doesn't really need to be looked down upon because he or she is trying to help the animal, right? I live in Southern California. It is very dry here in the summer and winter. I sometimes have to soak a snake or two. No big deal. In any case, it isn't so much of a humidity issue, but more likely an animal hydration issue anyways. Just some things to think about.

That Matrix is super cool by the way Matt!

I realize that. I wasn't trying to look down on the owner. I Just didn't see any educational value to the video. In my later post I say that and share my opinion of what could have made the video better.

Hydration and humidity go hand in hand. My home is usually in the low 30's for humidity. I really don't see think my humidity here is really helping me with my sheds. If I can get good sheds for a gtp and a brb without soaking I'm sure yall can too.