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    Who is more aggressive Rock or Retic?

    I have no experience with rocks but have heard they are aggressive. I have retics and think they are sweethearts.

    A rock and a retic probably could result in a hybrid. Most likely look like a bateater and have similar difficulties with copulation and egg survival.



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    on average afrocks are more aggressive than retics. although as with all snakes there are exceptions to the rule. and some individuals are docile.

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    Just curious, except for one or two posters no one specified if they had exprience with only WC/LTCs or C.H./C.B African Rocks. Do any more of you guys/gals have experience with nasty C.H./C.B animals? I know nothing about their reproduction in captivity. African Rocks are not a snake that you usually see. So I was wondering if this is due to reproduction issues, if people just dont breed them cause they don't make very good pets, or both?
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    Re: Who is more aggressive Rock or Retic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Annarose15 View Post
    I don't understand what makes the hybrids so much more "scary" than the pure form. They are both big. In the wild, they are both aggressive. In captivity, rocks appear to be much more aggressive than retics or burms. How is crossing one big snake with another more "scary" than the original big snake?
    I think what they were trying to portray on the show is a burm and a rock making a hybrid snake that's big and mean, though rocks in themselves are big and mean. Lol
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    Re: Who is more aggressive Rock or Retic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trackstrong83 View Post
    I think what they were trying to portray on the show is a burm and a rock making a hybrid snake that's big and mean, though rocks in themselves are big and mean. Lol
    Exactly my point. That's like saying, "Wouldn't it be scary if a king cobra and black mamba mated?!" Ummm...what does one not have that would be made more dangerous by the other?
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    Re: Who is more aggressive Rock or Retic?

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    Just curious, except for one or two posters no one specified if they had exprience with only WC/LTCs or C.H./C.B African Rocks. Do any more of you guys/gals have experience with nasty C.H./C.B animals? I know nothing about their reproduction in captivity. African Rocks are not a snake that you usually see. So I was wondering if this is due to reproduction issues, if people just dont breed them cause they don't make very good pets, or both?
    I've delt with both and I will say therr is VERY little difference. As we continue to breed snakes we slowly domesticate them is what I've always been told. I do but don't agree with that. On the other hand baby rocks wild caught were just as mean as CB. I WAS going to get a 6 foot male from a friend but it would ONLY be tame with him, it would bite everyone else that came near it. Rocks I think grow "trust" with there caretaker as they grow older, I disnt really believe this until I saw my friebds that I just mwntioned. In all honestly id say avoid rocks, there are retics and burmsse t hat are large and muxh more docile. If they were more docile we woh ld probably see more today but there temper is one of the reason we don't see them very ofteb.

    Also, I agree with one of the first post.. I've never met a rock I can trust.. I always have my eyes peeled even when they seem calm....
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    the hybrid fear comes from the media

    Back recently when they were trying to enlarge the florida issue with burmese pythons breeding down in the glades, they talked about them being able to find and breed with the African Rocks down there to form what they called a super snake basically. The Hybrids have been done, and they are just as nice as the Burmese are, just needs proper husbandry to keep them nice. Think of it like a fussy kid, the kids only being fussy because there's something causing them discomfort (hunger, fever, runny nose, poop filled delivery bag, etc). As long as you meet the needs of these snakes (captive bred specimens) their docility will be there. Instinct does take over and take some time for conditioning to get a more jumpy snake to calm, but they calm none the less.

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    Sidebar: All the afrocks I've messed with have been fine. Some cage aggression, but once they come out they had a good demeaner. They were all CB. Note that you can not get a WC afrock in the US anymore unless it was imported pre-ban, and is already located within your state.
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    Who is more aggressive Rock or Retic?

    Quote Originally Posted by OctagonGecko729 View Post
    Just curious, except for one or two posters no one specified if they had exprience with only WC/LTCs or C.H./C.B African Rocks. Do any more of you guys/gals have experience with nasty C.H./C.B animals? I know nothing about their reproduction in captivity. African Rocks are not a snake that you usually see. So I was wondering if this is due to reproduction issues, if people just dont breed them cause they don't make very good pets, or both?
    I'm not sure if people do not more commonly have them because of reproductive issues, I however have never heard of that.

    The zoo near me has a pair of rock pythons they keep on exhibit and recently had babies. I'm not entirely sure of the situation however they had four babies on display. If there were only four eggs laid, more in the back, or if the others were destroyed I'm not sure.

    I think people do not own them due to their temperament and with the Lacey act they are sort if stuck. Not like retics which are able to cross most state lines, come in smaller (SD,D) versions, and seem to be overcoming their stereotypes (like carpet pythons). This is probably more the reason for them not being kept in captivity rather then breeding problems.

    I know someone who recently rescued a Rock and it's not breaking any stereotypes.
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    Re: Who is more aggressive Rock or Retic?

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    the hybrid fear comes from the media
    Yep, stupid media hype. Oh no, it's SNAKEZILLA!
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