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    Flaky Shed Repost

    I had to repost because I wasn't clear enough.
    My ball python has recently been having some flaky scales coming off of his underside starting from his neck going down. It has progressively traveled towards his tail. His underside where it flakes off feels rough and the scales protrude a bit. The shed is only in each individual scale which you can peel off the thin flakes with your fingers. I've soaked him for 15 minutes everyday to try to loosen it up but it didn't work so I stopped. When you peel off the shed, the scale looks wrinkly and fleshy, it also feels like shed still attached when it's soaked. His eyes aren't blue or any signs of a shed besides a bit of pink belly. His last shed was incomplete but I took it off safely with some warm water and every piece of shed was removed. The humidity was kinda low the last 2 weeks (around 30%) since I kept my fan on. I have also kind of over handled him. Right now I keep the temperature precise on both sides. The humidity as of now is usually between 50-70. Other things that I am suspicious about are that he came with scale rot from the store so I put hydrogen peroxide with a q-tip on it and he shed it off. I am still treating the affected areas with peroxide and sometimes Hibiclens which is a kind of disinfectant without painkillers until he sheds again. His belly has been turning more pink, does that mean he will shed soon because I'm not sure if the flaky stuff counted as a shed. For those of you who can't imagine how the shed looks like, it's like a very thin piece of a clear plastic wrapper in the shape of the belly scales and the bigger scales closer to the belly.
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    WHY WOULD YOU PURCHASE AN ANIMAL FROM A STORE WITH SCALE ROT?

    #1: Take your animal to a vet if you have not done so already.
    #2: What do you mean by keeping temperatures "precise on both sides"??? There needs to be a hotspot, and a cool side. 88-90 degree hotspot, 78-80 degree cool side.

    The scale rot seems to have gotten much worse.

    To the viewers: WHEN YOU SEE AN UNHEALTHY ANIMAL AT A PET STORE, IT NEEDS TO BE REPORTED TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES, NOT PURCHASED.
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    I did not notice it, it was my first ball python, it wasn't too bad tho. There are no brown spots on his body from scale rot or anything similar to scale rot. I meant that the temperatures for both, cool and warm sides are appropriate. The scales themselves are not falling off or smell bad. The scale rot was just the brown tinges on the tip of the scales.
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    Sounds like you may need to see a vet but in the mean time concentrate on your conditions as far as temps hot and cool side also your humidity for future shed. Is your ball feeding?

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    Feeding perfectly fine.
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    How are you measuring your temps? Can you put up a picture of both your snake's belly/problem scales and the enclosure it's in?
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    Please don't put peroxide on your snake.

    Do you have pictures of this "scale rot"?

    It sounds like the belly is burned to me.
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    The belly brown spots are gone but I do have this old picture: http://imgur.com/RxjlkCi
    I am measuring with probe thermometers in the hides and 1 analog thermometer/hygrometer in the middle for ambient.
    I can't give pics until I find my phone (won't take too long) but I can give a description of the enclosure.
    20 gallon long tank with 1+ inch of cypress mulch for substrate (not loose enough to burrow) with an appropriate sized ZooMed UTH, 2 fake rock ExoTerra hides, 3 fake plants and a reptile safe grapevine log.
    He also seems to be looking a bit duller like if he is going into shed. I will provide pics ASAP. Problem about a vet is that there are no qualified herp vets in my area, I've looked everywhere including the Herp Vet Connection.
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    Re: Flaky Shed Repost

    Quote Originally Posted by Camel Zombie View Post
    The belly brown spots are gone but I do have this old picture: http://imgur.com/RxjlkCi
    I am measuring with probe thermometers in the hides and 1 analog thermometer/hygrometer in the middle for ambient.
    I can't give pics until I find my phone (won't take too long) but I can give a description of the enclosure.
    20 gallon long tank with 1+ inch of cypress mulch for substrate (not loose enough to burrow) with an appropriate sized ZooMed UTH, 2 fake rock ExoTerra hides, 3 fake plants and a reptile safe grapevine log.
    He also seems to be looking a bit duller like if he is going into shed. I will provide pics ASAP. Problem about a vet is that there are no qualified herp vets in my area, I've looked everywhere including the Herp Vet Connection.
    The snake looks pretty young, those brown spots could be from the healing umbilicus (belly button) on your snake. Which is completely normal.

    If you aren't regulating your UTH with a thermostat (note: not a thermometer) then this could be a burn. When you say there is a pink belly, and the belly scales are flaking off, that leads me to believe it is a burn. A pink belly is also the first sign of an impending shed, but the skin doesn't come off until much later. When it does come off, it should be in one full piece.

    Could you move the probe that is over the heat pad under the substrate and tell us what it reads?

    Looking forward to the picture.
    ~Steffe

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    Re: Flaky Shed Repost

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    The snake looks pretty young, those brown spots could be from the healing umbilicus (belly button) on your snake. Which is completely normal.

    If you aren't regulating your UTH with a thermostat (note: not a thermometer) then this could be a burn. When you say there is a pink belly, and the belly scales are flaking off, that leads me to believe it is a burn. A pink belly is also the first sign of an impending shed, but the skin doesn't come off until much later. When it does come off, it should be in one full piece.

    Could you move the probe that is over the heat pad under the substrate and tell us what it reads?

    Looking forward to the picture.
    I keep a piece of paper towel over the glass so it covers the whole heat pad. Do you want it under that too or over?
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