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    The problem with what Kurt is trying to say is that the Pastel gene and the clown gene are on two different locus. That and the fact that some morph genes will be better than others. So no matter what as soon as you outcross a gene it would have to be outcrossed to another line bred snake of a desired trait/quality in order to insure the TOP qualities you so desire.
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    Re: Is this a normal Clown or a pastel Clown?

    Quote Originally Posted by TessadasExotics View Post
    The problem with what Kurt is trying to say is that the Pastel gene and the clown gene are on two different locus. That and the fact that some morph genes will be better than others. So no matter what as soon as you outcross a gene it would have to be outcrossed to another line bred snake of a desired trait/quality in order to insure the TOP qualities you so desire.

    What I interperated from Kurt's post was that the pastel gene is what it is, and that the only reason some pastels look nicer than others is because of line breeding. He then goes on to say that when you mix a line bred pastel into other morphs it will not translate correctly because line breeding does not effect the pastel mutation directly, but rather the quality of the snake it has been bred into. He believes that when you take a pastel and breed it into another morph like the recessive clown mutation, you pass along the pastel mutation alone without any of the benefits given to it through line breeding it to be brighter/better/faster/stronger and it is then dominated by the clown mutation.

    I could be wrong; he may have meant something else, but lets face it, either way it made little sense.
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    Re: Is this a normal Clown or a pastel Clown?

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    I think the issue is that once you start breeding high quality squirrels to low quality line bred donkeys, you end up with pastel horses that aren't that great. This is because 62.998% of the donkey is not showing because it was previously line bred to a tortoise. The only thing you could possibly end up with from that pairing is an albino gorilla 66% het for herpes.
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    Re: Is this a normal Clown or a pastel Clown?

    Quote Originally Posted by TJ_Burton View Post
    I think the issue is that once you start breeding high quality squirrels to low quality line bred donkeys, you end up with pastel horses that aren't that great. This is because 62.998% of the donkey is not showing because it was previously line bred to a tortoise. The only thing you could possibly end up with from that pairing is an albino gorilla 66% het for herpes.


    OP: I'd say pastel clown as well.
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