Haven't actually got them yet. I'm still really new and trying to look for in specifice morphs. What's average what's really nice etc. From what I read I thought these were pretty nice examples but wanted to get some confirmation. I want to get a couple females that I can start working on then figured I'd start looking at males next year sometime. Thanks for the input. Oh 425 for the bee 650 for the lesser bee. Seem fair?