Super Fire or Clown?

[tomjones456]

Sounds to me like you've already made up your mind. Go with the super fire if that's what you want. Also, if you are getting a male, know that it will be two generations before you see any morphs with the clown, versus only one with the fire (assuming you breed to your albino girl) Get what YOU want!

i love the normal clown also! haha. wat would i make breeding a super fire male, with an albino female? and if i got a clown, i wouldnt breed it to my albino. I'd want to start a black pewter clown project, or go right into pastel/killer clowns

[brobertson]

i love the normal clown also! haha. wat would i make breeding a super fire male, with an albino female? and if i got a clown, i wouldnt breed it to my albino. I'd want to start a black pewter clown project, or go right into pastel/killer clowns

To an albino, you would get all fire het albinos. Sounds like you have big plans! Looking at your other thread, I would certainly get a big CB70 rack, because it looks like you'll be having many more snakes. I bought a 3 tub rack, realized that I needed more tubs, and finally broke down and bought another. Also, good to see another high-schooler on the site!

[tomjones456]

To an albino, you would get all fire het albinos. Sounds like you have big plans! Looking at your other thread, I would certainly get a big CB70 rack, because it looks like you'll be having many more snakes. I bought a 3 tub rack, realized that I needed more tubs, and finally broke down and bought another. Also, good to see another high-schooler on the site!

seems like theres alot more options breeding-wise with the clown. but the super fire just looks so cool! hard decision! which would u choose?

i was actually looking at this rack, wat do u think?
http://www.reptilebasics.com/iris-sw...y-or-back-heat
worried it might be too small? i want my balls to be able to move around lol

[brobertson]

seems like theres alot more options breeding-wise with the clown. but the super fire just looks so cool! hard decision! which would u choose?

i was actually looking at this rack, wat do u think?
http://www.reptilebasics.com/iris-sw...y-or-back-heat
worried it might be too small? i want my balls to be able to move around lol

Personally, I would go with a CB-70, which is one size tub larger. In general, the 32 qt tubs will fit adult males, while the cb70 tubs will fit adult females. The 32 Qt tub is equivalent to a 20 gallon long, and a cb70 is equiv. to a 40 gallon breeder. Some people keep both sexes in 32 qts, but I feel that it is a bit too small for adult girls. Also, one thing to consider is that to make a rack feasible, your room needs to be warm (75 degrees plus) for your ambient cool side temps to be warm enough. Reptile basics makes great racks, I own a CB70 and am very satisfied.

If I were you, I would buy a 6 or 7 tub CB70 rack. You could buy two RBI or c-serpents racks, or one from animal plastics. Best if luck on whatever you decide to get.

[tomjones456]

Personally, I would go with a CB-70, which is one size tub larger. In general, the 32 qt tubs will fit adult males, while the cb70 tubs will fit adult females. The 32 Qt tub is equivalent to a 20 gallon long, and a cb70 is equiv. to a 40 gallon breeder. Some people keep both sexes in 32 qts, but I feel that it is a bit too small for adult girls. Also, one thing to consider is that to make a rack feasible, your room needs to be warm (75 degrees plus) for your ambient cool side temps to be warm enough. Reptile basics makes great racks, I own a CB70 and am very satisfied.

If I were you, I would buy a 6 or 7 tub CB70 rack. You could buy two RBI or c-serpents racks, or one from animal plastics. Best if luck on whatever you decide to get.

i wont ever have a room that i can change temp just for ball pythons. which is why im liking the belly heat feature which i heard is better for people in that situation. and i tried to go to animal plastics and the website doesnt work

[satomi325]

haha. wat would i make breeding a super fire male, with an albino female?

Like mentioned before, they would be fire het albinos.
I love fires, but I think that's a poor combo.

Albino does better when combined with darker morphs. The darker normal or morph coloration becomes high contrast in albinos.
A lighter colored animal, such as fire, will make a low contrast or washed out albino. Especially since the fire gene gets lighter as it sheds.

Although, I suppose you try for a Leucistic Albino in the future. (a white animal with red eyes.)



If you like yellow and white animals, shoot for an albino pied! They are so awesome looking.

[tomjones456]

Like mentioned before, they would be fire het albinos.
I love fires, but I think that's a poor combo.

Albino does better when combined with darker morphs. The darker normal or morph coloration becomes high contrast in albinos.
A lighter colored animal, such as fire, will make a low contrast or washed out albino. Especially since the fire gene gets lighter as it sheds.

Although, I suppose you try for a Leucistic Albino in the future. (a white animal with red eyes.)



If you like yellow and white animals, shoot for an albino pied! They are so awesome looking.

im actually planning to do exactly that, make a leucistic albino. my next snake (2nd) is gonna be a clown! def underrated and one of the best morphs out there. really looking to start a black pastel clown project, i just need to know what i need to make those 2 first haha

[sfdefender25]

Clown is awesome, but are you looking to breed? If you don't have two or a het you have a ways to go to produce, but the super fire if its a male could be ready by this coming season. Just depends on what your doing. Super fire means you will get nothing less than a fire baby every time. But the clown morph looks awesome. I say super fire.

[tomjones456]

Clown is awesome, but are you looking to breed? If you don't have two or a het you have a ways to go to produce, but the super fire if its a male could be ready by this coming season. Just depends on what your doing. Super fire means you will get nothing less than a fire baby every time. But the clown morph looks awesome. I say super fire.

yes im looking to breed, but maybe a 1-4 years after i buy it. im set on a clown, because im trying start a black pastel clown, or killer clown project. wat would i need to start this up? a normal clown?

[tomjones456]

black pewter clown**