Orange Dream. What is the big deal?

[Pythonfriend]

I did it, a direct screenshot with windows 7, used "paint" that came with it to extract it from cache and save as .jpg file, uploaded to imageshack, and you should be able to see it now. the windows 7 components i used are unchanged original, and i use firefox.



if 10 people in a row now say they cannot see the difference, i guess ill lose all faith in anything electronic or go crazy. i still say there is a difference.

[Marrissa]

In this last post you made I can see a difference but I don't see any difference between the two pics in your first post. I don't think he'd bother to doctor a photo of a snake that isn't his, especially when it's just a photo to help out another member. I think its just a technical mishap.

Anyways, I never understood the orange dream thing either until this thread when I saw the supers. With my newbieness I was wondering if it was just me having a hard time telling the difference between OD and normal. After this thread I think I want to play around with OD gene way off down the road.

[Jonas@Balls2TheWall]

Like others have said, OD's are great for combo's. As far as OD vs Enchi, ill take enchi any day, but thats just personal opinion. We have some enchis over here that are incredibly beautiful and thats on their own.

[Pythonfriend]

umm, i guess ill check my computer for this, if you see a difference in my screenshot but not earlier then something must be messed up on my part. But its a quite fresh installation of windows 7 with firefox. I guess what i will do is to look at this thread with the latest mac OS from apple at a friends home, or ill try it with a boot-from-USB no harddrive access linux version. At least i am not totally crazy, you see it in my screenshot. But then i have the two .jpg files on my harddrive and these show the difference as it is in my screenshot. Since its about .jpg, and firefox and windows7, a definitive discovery of this problem would be quite meaningful.

EDIT: maybe its just a technical glitch.... but trust me, ill at least try boot-from-USB linux with firefox portable, and if the two linked .jpg then really look the same..... The conclusion would be that i maybe found a zero-day bug in windows 7.

[MarkS]

I hope that I don't get too much hate for this post, but I can't for the life of me figure out what all of the hype is about. Some of the single gene baby pics look kind of cool, but I can't see much of a difference in most of the combos. And the few adult pictures I've seen look like pretty normals.

I hate thinking that everyone is just jumping on the bandwagon, so tell me what I'm missing here. Maybe I just have to see them in person?

I've seen the same kind of posts questioning many different new mutations like Enchi, Vanilla, even Mojave and Pastel. Some of it I'm sure is because of people not being able to see the potential in something new but I think it might also be because a lot of the early example of new mutations are not the best examples. It's inevitable that any new mutations will be 'cleaned up' through selective breeding over time. Early Pastels were really not very noteworthy compared to typical examples produced today.

[Pythonfriend]

I've seen the same kind of posts questioning many different new mutations like Enchi, Vanilla, even Mojave and Pastel. Some of it I'm sure is because of people not being able to see the potential in something new but I think it might also be because a lot of the early example of new mutations are not the best examples. It's inevitable that any new mutations will be 'cleaned up' through selective breeding over time. Early Pastels were really not very noteworthy compared to typical examples produced today.

Absolutely true. X2.

[Coleslaw007]

I'm personally a fan of the OD combos. Sure, the base morph is fairly subtle, but so is YB and look at the highway ball. Just because a morph is understated doesn't mean it doesn't have tons of potential.

I LOVE the super OD combos. I'm not getting on that project right now with the current prices, but I'd love to have the gene in my collection one day.

[Rob]

I place it in the same category as enchi. Base morph is ok, but its the combos that are sick.

[majorleaguereptiles]

I love orange dreams. Some of the best looking ball pythons I've seen in person have been orange dream combos and I've seen A LOT of snakes.

As a ball python breeder I respect any mutation whether its subtle or significant that can reliably change the appearance in offspring. I make my own judgments and keep them to myself. Cynicism never got me anywhere in life.

The orange dream is not an enchi, I never understood why people even compare mutations to other mutations? I mean does it even remotely matter? Enchis are a dime a dozen, hence the price tag. Orange dreams aren't and offer something completely different. I think it's actually fortunate people get to work with this mutation at such an affordable price so early in its development.

Every orange dream I have hatched has been incredible in base form. Not sure if I got lucky or what, but to me threads like this make me scratch my head.

[Pythonfriend]

about the problem with the differently-looking .jpg image, i described the problem in the photography-section of this forum, and someone there managed to figure it out and explained what happened

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-in-jpg-images <--- he even made an example that shows it, its on the first page of the thread.

its all very technical, basically an error in the ICC tagging of the .jpg file can cause dramatic color differences and some upload-services just change these aspects of the file. so noone did anyhing wrong, its just a bug. Sorry for the confusion, and that it took so long to figure out what went wrong with the image file.


now that this is out of the way, i would still love to see some images of orange dreams and orange dream combos that are fully adult, the older the better