bp flailing around wildly for a few minutes...help

[33rpm]

My reference was to both of you, I just didn't feel the need to multi-quote.

Suuuuure!

[Annarose15]

Suuuuure!

So we're still friends?

[33rpm]

So we're still friends?

Of course!

[straightballin']

Boy do i feel like an idiot...of course you need all that info...
1. Basking side 92 cool side 84 using ut heating mat and basking bulb. Humidity about 55%. Using tank thermometers on either side and a humidity gauge in the bottom of the tank.
2. Yes cohabiting...will buff up on the proper way to do this and will separate for the time being. Husband is working on this as i type
3. Can't believe we didn't think to quarantine... thank you
4. Cleaned out 2 urine cakes, rinsed and scrubbed out water dishes with hot water and a brush designated as snake water dish scrubber. The only thing I've ever used is a bit of dawn then a thorough rinsing. Mixed substrate around and remoistened.
5. Will get a vet visit scheduled asap.
6. Will leave them be for at least a week

Also...we use Eco-Earth coconut fiber for subtrate, have two water bowls, one on hot side one on cool side. An antler, 2 logs, a large custom built cave. In a 55 gallon tank. Supposedly they were fed a few days before we got them. Should we wait until the week of acclimation has ended before feeding?

Thank you so much for your help. I will be more thorough in future queries.

[BPro927]

My reference was to both of you, I just didn't feel the need to multi-quote.

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/MGy4g1qJdpo


This snake is flailing around.

I was making a suggestion. The original poster did not give us enough information. I was just trying to help a fellow hobbyist!

Oh and I have a spider with very little wobble.

You have a good day!

[Skiploder]

Boy do i feel like an idiot...of course you need all that info...
1. Basking side 92 cool side 84 using ut heating mat and basking bulb. Humidity about 55%. Using tank thermometers on either side and a humidity gauge in the bottom of the tank.
2. Yes cohabiting...will buff up on the proper way to do this and will separate for the time being. Husband is working on this as i type
3. Can't believe we didn't think to quarantine... thank you
4. Cleaned out 2 urine cakes, rinsed and scrubbed out water dishes with hot water and a brush designated as snake water dish scrubber. The only thing I've ever used is a bit of dawn then a thorough rinsing. Mixed substrate around and remoistened.
5. Will get a vet visit scheduled asap.
6. Will leave them be for at least a week.




Also...we use Eco-Earth coconut fiber for subtrate, have two water bowls, one on hot side one on cool side. An antler, 2 logs, a large custom built cave. In a 55 gallon tank. Supposedly they were fed a few days before we got them. Should we wait until the week of acclimation has ended before feeding?

Thank you so much for your help. I will be more thorough in future queries.

Okay Lori - again, you are going to get a lot of opinions here so let's prioritize things:

(1) You need three enclosures - this is where the rubbermaid, iris or similar tubs (28qt or 41qt) are an economical choice.

(2) Each enclosure needs it's own heat source. All three heat sources can be controlled by one thermostat.

(3) Keep it simple for right now. Newspaper or paper towel substrate and a hide over the heating pad with a water bowl will do fine.

(4) Once the three snakes are in their own individual enclosures - do not touch them for 7 days. Don't feed them, don't hold them, don't even open the lids to look at them.

(5) Depending on how warm you keep your house, using tubs may be a problem............there are ways to compensate for this.

(6) Tank thermometers are virtually useless. Reptile Basics will sell you a nice heat gun so that you can get accurate hot spot, cool spot and ambient temps.

(7) You can get the tubs with lids at Walmart or Target. Three of them will set you back about $30. You can pick up three heating mats from any petstore and and entry level thermostat to regulate them.

All three heat mats can be run off of the one stat. The lids can be held down with binder clips.

If money is not an issue, you can run this set up until you can purchase a three drawer rack from Reptile Basics (short lead time) or Animal Plastics.

At this point, with the three snakes sharing one 55 gallon tank, quarantine may be a moot point. As I stated before, you can cohabitate adult balls, but a 55 gallon tank is too small to provide all of the necessary requirements for a pair, let alone a trio. Separate the animals and let them settle into their new homes.

At this point, don't worry about humidity. You can buy spaghnum moss from any local nursery, wet it, wring it out and place it in the hide.

Are any of these morphs or are they all normals?

[meowmeowkazoo]

If the antler has sharp prongs I would remove it immediately.

[rabernet]

Skip has got you well covered.

My immediate thought on the behavior is that the female is a male in with another male. The behavior you described reminds me of how males will "battle". I'll see if I can find a video so that you can see if the behavior is similar.

In the meantime I'd follow Skips recommendations.

Edit - can't seem to find any videos of the behavior at the moment.

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