That was the first time I have been to the Hamburg show and it may have been my last. We got there at 11:30 and waited an hour in the cold and rain just to get in the door. The place was crazy crowded and it was tough to even get to some tables. Plus everyone was already sold out of small and medium rats by the time I got there. I did score a good deal on a real nice hatchling rack from C-Serpents though.