sorry i wasn't calling u stupid , this guy rob is pissing me off , i cant put it between the uth and the glass , or on the back side of the uth either , my tstat did not come with anything to raise it enoph to do that, i could get something at the store but it think im just going to return it and get a different tstat, apparently the tstat i have is not very reliable, i will do some research befor i spend the money on a new one though, what tstat are u using? i just didnt want to have to turn why tstat way up to make my hot spot right