Who owns guns and you carry?

[youbeyouibei]

Yes, I have. A shotgun, though. At a shooting range.

I was younger, it didn't sway my opinion any way because I see nothing wrong with having guns for hunting.

Most people here have grown up without guns, that's just the way it is. I live in the Toronto area, and the crime rates are extremely low for the size of the city. It's just not dangerous here.

Most of the gun violence that occurs here is by gangs, aiming at other gangs. It is EXTREMELY rare here for non-gang members to get caught up within it, but it has happened. However, as I've said, those are rare anomalies.

I just don't like guns, period. I see no need for hand guns to be in the hands of civilians. That's just it.

Praying or saying the pledge weren't designed to kill someone. Saying the pledge or praying can't kill someone. Guns were and do.

We just don't have the problems with gun violence like you guys do (neither does Ireland, Scotland, England, etc), and I think having extremely tight restrictions on guns is the main reason why.
There's a common denominator here: the less accessible guns are for the average Joe, the less gun violence there is. Period.

I'm not by any means trying to put words into your mouth but if I understand your argument correctly and take it just a little further, you're essentially arguing the state has the right of parens patriae, yes? Or that "the state is my father" and as such is responsible for me and my actions whether to prevent them or to intervene against me or on my behalf when I or others make decisions? Using that logic, couldn't you apply that to anything? If people didn't drive cars, there would be no automobile deaths. If people didn't have snakes, there would be no invasive species problem in the Everglades or children being injured/killed through irresponsible ownership, etc. If we outlawed sugar, people wouldn't be fat. Again, I understand what you're saying but given what a spectacular job the government in my country is doing running things and has done for the amount of time I've been alive, I take exception to willfully giving up a right that is guaranteed to me with a woefully misplaced belief that the government will take care of me as their "child" and they as my "father". Thanks but no thanks to that. I am absolutely in support of responsible gun ownership for anyone that is legally allowed to, for whatever purpose they see fit to own such weapons rather than relying on Uncle Sam to tend to my wants and needs.