Quote Originally Posted by carlson View Post
How big do pines get? I think those are what I was thinking of not bull snakes
Mine is about 4.5 feet. I have heard they can be (are supposed to be?) bigger, however, that may be people getting confused because other pine snake types can be larger.

This is a male we are talking about by the way. They're quite slender, so there is not much to them for that length.