Quote Originally Posted by KMG View Post
I don't think you have much experience killing snakes. Even with the head completely cut off they will wiggle and move for a long time after.
I'm not talking about death thrashes or muscular impulses of a dying creature, I am saying that there are very obviously creatures who are not dead or dying but still alive, moving, trying to escape, and still in pain. Not to mention, many of the animals needed to be hit multiple times before they lay still and being bludgeoned to death is hardly a humane manner of dispatching an animal.

Quote Originally Posted by EarthlyMaiden View Post
I have no doubt it's a brutal process, I just don't trust PETA.
They made the same 'cut up while still alive' claim about beef cattle in slaughterhouses. (When, if they actually observed a slaughterhouse, they'd find that it is extremely humane.) They made farmers out to be freaks who like to mutilate live animals, and they tend to categorize everyone who isn't a total vegan as some sort of complete monster. I've reached the point where I assume everything they say is either a complete lie, an uninformed statement or extremely exaggerated.

I was also commenting on how it would be difficult to remove skin from a wriggling, moving animal that could just as easily bite you if you need to get the skin off intact.
Well, if you watched the video, the process they use to skin them is obviously able to work around potentially bitey animals.
But yeah, PETA is just a group of scummy folks in the end and they don't know what they are talking about more than half the time but a lot of the issues the pursue, albeit in the wrong manner, are usually real issues that exist and affect the well being of animals. Personally, I don't disagree with hunting and I don't entirely disagree with the meat/fur/skin industry but these are things that need conscious monitoring and there are areas that tend to result in cruelty towards creatures who generally have no ability to defend themselves. So essentially, assuming that everything they say being a extreme exaggeration isn't far off from the truth.