bedding probs

[rikerHFFH]

Well i read about kiln pine and their isnt proof its bad i know a few breeders who use it and snakes are fine. I think its just mumbo jumbo internet crap talk personally my question is since odin isnt use to the bedding and the last owner eused sand from out side is it normal for him not to wanna b on the new bedding and sleep on top of his hide log im sure he will eventually get use to it

[Inarikins]

He's not using the hide because he's not feeling secure in it. My boyfriend's 700 gram fire started out in too-big hides and he laid on top of the hides until we got him smaller ones. He slithered in right away and was perfectly happy.

[Sita]

I think it's two problems: it's a new type of bedding, and the hide is too big.

When I first switched Ryuu from paper to cypress mulch/coco bark, he seemed to play "the floor is lava" for a few days. I put in strips of paper laying on top, and each day took one piece out. By the end of the week, he was all over the place like he had been before.

The hide is also too big. They like enclosed hides with one opening, and that they can feel touching them on most sides when they curl up. Those half log hides are next to useless in my opinion. You can cut a hole in a little cardboard box and just replace it when it gets dirty.

[rikerHFFH]

Ty guys

[Pythonfriend]

maybe the plastic emits some toxins the snake doesnt like. And you definitively roughened up that plastic when cleaning it agressively, so that chemicals within the plastic can now come out. I dont want to seem paranoid, but really, none of the plastics we come into contact with and none of what they contain is subject to any review or oversight.

i would say try to replace the whole tub. and provide hiding places that do not share the same floor, hiding places that have a sealed bottom that is clean, maybe put some reptile-approved moist moss or fern inside. Increase the number of hiding places.

Also, some wood- or plant-based substrates can be bad for reptiles, here the ones that contain a lot of scent and oils are the risky ones. Pythons just hate some wood-based substrates, depending on the kind of wood. You will figure it out, but for now, i guess you should just trust your snake and see where it goes, and do your research on possible diseases the snake mght have, or possible issues with materials used in the enclosure.

Best Regards

[Inarikins]

maybe the plastic emits some toxins the snake doesnt like. And you definitively roughened up that plastic when cleaning it agressively, so that chemicals within the plastic can now come out. I dont want to seem paranoid, but really, none of the plastics we come into contact with and none of what they contain is subject to any review or oversight.

i would say try to replace the whole tub. and provide hiding places that do not share the same floor, hiding places that have a sealed bottom that is clean, maybe put some reptile-approved moist moss or fern inside. Increase the number of hiding places.

Also, some wood- or plant-based substrates can be bad for reptiles, here the ones that contain a lot of scent and oils are the risky ones. Pythons just hate some wood-based substrates, depending on the kind of wood. You will figure it out, but for now, i guess you should just trust your snake and see where it goes, and do your research on possible diseases the snake mght have, or possible issues with materials used in the enclosure.

Best Regards

First try changing out the hides to something smaller. I don't know many people here who use hides with sealed bottoms either... Mine always burrows down into the substrate to make a nice comfy home.

[Pythonfriend]

First try changing out the hides to something smaller. I don't know many people here who use hides with sealed bottoms either... Mine always burrows down into the substrate to make a nice comfy home.

If the snake hates either the substrate or some smell/chemical coming from the tub, guess what.... The python will sit on top of the hide. Ò_ó . Artificial rock hides with a lid, that can be kept clean, and that are closed at the bottom, sometimes they really make sense.

[Inarikins]

They'll also sit on top of the hide if it's too big or not secure enough. Which that half log is. It's easier to replace the hides first than to replace everything.

[RoseyReps]

If the snake hates either the substrate or some smell/chemical coming from the tub, guess what.... The python will sit on top of the hide. Ò_ó . Artificial rock hides with a lid, that can be kept clean, and that are closed at the bottom, sometimes they really make sense.

Unless I missed something, the picture shown looks like an aquarium, not a tub.

[satomi325]

Unless I missed something, the picture shown looks like an aquarium, not a tub.

Nope. Definitely a glass tank...

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