Piebald question

[Marrissa]

So I have a pinstripe male who 3/4 years down the line I am considering breeding. Now I am really interested in piebalds. Would I only ever be able to get het pies from him when matched with a piebald female?

[Flikky]

Yes. They would all be 100% het for Piebald
50% Normal het Pied
50% Pinstripe het Pied

[Marrissa]

Ah dang. That's a lot of waiting for piebald babies. Well thank you for the help!

[Exotic Ectotherms]

You can pick up a pair of subadult/adult Het Piebalds for relatively cheap....you wait would be much shorter.

[joebad976]

You can pick up a pair of subadult/adult Het Piebalds for relatively cheap....you wait would be much shorter.

I am pretty sure that would make the wait longer. Pin x Pied would get you to your Pin Pied faster than having a pair of het pieds and waiting to produce a female pied to breed back to the Pin.

[nimblykimbly]

I am pretty sure that would make the wait longer. Pin x Pied would get you to your Pin Pied faster than having a pair of het pieds and waiting to produce a female pied to breed back to the Pin.

I think it depends on if he is looking to make Piebalds or Pin Pieds... If he is looking to make Piebalds, it'd be quicker to pick up a het pied male and grow him up, vs breeding his two and waiting for a hatch of het pieds and then growing one up and breeding back. But if he is trying to make Pin Pieds, then yes it'd be smarter, less expensive, and/or quicker to produce his own with what he has

[nimblykimbly]

I'm sorry, I automatically assumed you were a 'he'.... But realize you could be a 'she'

[EmberBall]

Get your female Pied and get a sub adult female Het Pied. Breed your Pin to the Pied and then keep back a Pin Het Pied male, to breed to the Het Pied that will be an adult by this time. No inbreeding....you get your Pied Pin.

Dave

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Yes you would, each egg would have 50% chance to yeld a Pinstripe Het Pied or a Het Pied

Keep a male Pin Het Pied breed it back to your female the following season and produce something like this

[CD CONSTRICTORS]

Get your female Pied and get a sub adult female Het Pied. Breed your Pin to the Pied and then keep back a Pin Het Pied male, to breed to the Het Pied that will be an adult by this time. No inbreeding....you get your Pied Pin.

Dave

That would take 2-3 years minimum, If you're lucky enough to hit the odds... twice...

I'd just pick up a Pin 100% Het Pied male and breed him to an adult/sub adult pickup 0.1 Pied when she was up to size this fall. You only need to hit the odds once with the 1.0 Pin 100% Het Pied vs. twice trying to make your own Hets then hit a Pin Pied the third year after your 1.0 Pin 100% Het Pied is big enough to breed (if you hit one).

Yes.... More expensive upfront, but a quicker return on your investment if you produce a year earlier- which basically negates the difference you paid upfront in the first place.

Say you paid $1000 more for the combo of a 1.0 Pin 100% Het Pied and 0.1 Pied over making your own Hets with two 0.1 Pied/Het Pieds- then say in the two years it would take you to produce in your original Het making effort, you could have produced 2 clutches. Your investment difference is recouped in the first year and you still have a 0.1 Pied which is worth well more than a 100% Het Pied.