Rat color id please

[DooLittle]

Thank you!

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[sorraia]

This is what I'm seeing:

First picture looks mink, but second picture looks blue, maybe Russian blue. I see what looks like heathering, so I'm leaning toward Russian blue.
Markings look like bareback with head spot.

Black, blazed hooded or variageted (leaning toward variegated, but can't see the spine stripe well enough).

Russian blue blazed berkshire

fawn (red/ruby eyes) or silver fawn (pink eyes) blazed variegated.

Looks like a blue agouti color, can't tell if it is American blue or Russian blue agouti though. marked is variegated with headspot.

Russian Blue, berkshire or irish depending on how much white is on the belly.

agouti hooded

Black, looks like berkshire from the white on the side.

[DooLittle]

Thank you, that's what I was looking for. . So does varigaited mean mottled coloring through out? So what makes them a Berkshire? Is Berkshire the coat pattern, not color?

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[sorraia]

Thank you, that's what I was looking for. . So does varigaited mean mottled coloring through out? So what makes them a Berkshire? Is Berkshire the coat pattern, not color?

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Yes on variegated. Basically a variegated has the hood (with or without a blaze or headspot), but instead of a stripe (broken or solid, an ideal hooded has a solid stripe) down the back, they have spotting like a dalmatian. The Berkshire is a marking: white feet, white belly, and sometimes a headspot or blaze, ideally half the tail is white but that doesn't always happen either. Irish would just have a splotch of white on the belly instead of the whole belly being white. "American Irish" is more of a circle, "English Irish" is a perfect equilateral triangle between the front legs with the point pointing at the back legs.

ETA: And the genetics for all of these markings are all related and on the H-locus. Hooded is a simple h/h, Berkshire is a H/h, where self (completely solid, no white at all) is H/H. The variegated, bareback, dalmatian, Irish, and several others are modifiers on that locus. I can't remember all of the codes used for the different genes, but I think they include (might have dominant/recessive mixed up too) h^i, H^re, and H^ro (this is the "Robert" gene, aka Essex).

[snakesRkewl]

variegated


Agouti berkshire(standing up)


blue on left, blue agouti on right ... Agouti makes the blue look orangish


English (I think)


Baldie


Bareback


Self, All black no white anywhere


Capped

[satomi325]

Sorry I'm late to the party.

This is what I see.




Russian Blue Bareback




Black Lightning Blaze Variegated


Russian Blue Blaze berkshire


Fawn variegated


Russian Silver variegated


Russian Blue (looks berkshire to me)



Agouti hooded





Black Berkshire

[DooLittle]

Thank you all so much! Now I have a clue what these cute little guys are!

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[snakesRkewl]

As far as I know a silver is a blue rat diluted with the pink eye gene like this ...


This is the product of blue X agouti blue, both parents carried the pink eye gene since they came from a pink eyed Siamese.

[DooLittle]

The one I wondered on the silver, is from the blue, and he came from a Siamese mom, with the red eyes.

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[snakesRkewl]

The one I wondered on the silver, is from the blue, and he came from a Siamese mom, with the red eyes.

It's american blue, they are pretty silver blue colored.
The lighter it is can be an indicator of it carrying a red eye recessive gene.

I have produced a ton of American blues, it's pretty much my favorite color besides Fawn.


American blue with a sibling russian blue. I bred russian blues to American blues before I knew they were incompatible, so a lot of my rats carried both genes and made both types of blue rats in the same litters