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01-23-2013, 10:48 AM
#131
How is Andrew Wyatt getting your info?
Seeing that people are still in support for them or are still waiting for the "dust to settle" is making me lose hope.
I come here because I enjoy my animals, I enjoy sharing photos, information and ideas. Over the past week, I find myself coming here and getting angry. They make me sick.
There is enough out their for everyone to make up their mind about them. I had my mind made up as soon as I got their email.
If their supporters are still behind them after all of this, what will change at this point?
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01-23-2013, 02:30 PM
#132
Re: How is Andrew Wyatt getting your info?
I don't know if anyone has been following the BLBC discussion but from what I can see they refuse to support USHA. I didn't like Wyatt before for professional reasons and this only whole ordeal the propaganda (in essence) he threw around like candy is just the nail in the coffin.
For anyone that liked Justins video, they've all but nailed him to the wall as a liar in the same league as Wyatt.
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01-23-2013, 03:12 PM
#133
I think the BLBC and their moderating staff did a good job of letting everyone tell their sides. It's human nature to pick a side and it's human nature to express strong opinions while a debate is going on - there is nothing wrong with that. In the end, many of those who were giving Wyatt the benefit of the doubt not only were forthright in saying so from the get go, but were gracious to Ken at the end of it all. In my book, that shows class.
In the end, I think that most people saw what was going on a called it the way they saw it. Since Erika was not going on any other forums, the BLBC served an invaluable service in providing a venue for all of this to go down - and it was necessary for it to go down this way. They have also gotten Brant and Canning to start answering some questions that should be of concern to anyone who is on the fence with PIJAC.........and this is an extremely necessary step in order for the community to find some common ground.
FWIW, I'm not a member there and was not going to join just to take part in this discussion - I feel that would have been crass on my part. But I think the way that Larry and his staff handled everything was above approach.
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01-23-2013, 03:39 PM
#134
Re: How is Andrew Wyatt getting your info?
Yes, it was good to have a lot of things addressed. Like I said, while Ken's problem is unfortunate–I feel it was...necessary to promote change, progress, and just get things done.
Sorry, Ken, but I'll put you down in my book as the man who united herpetoculture. Good luck in Nevada, the community is behind you I'm very sure.
I really was hoping for an introduction/inaugural address by the new USARK president on the current state of affairs and moving forward. May still yet, but I'm now excited for the future. I can't wait to get started on the good fight for 2013.
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01-23-2013, 04:29 PM
#135
Re: How is Andrew Wyatt getting your info?
 Originally Posted by Kodieh
Yes, it was good to have a lot of things addressed. Like I said, while Ken's problem is unfortunate–I feel it was...necessary to promote change, progress, and just get things done.
Sorry, Ken, but I'll put you down in my book as the man who united herpetoculture. Good luck in Nevada, the community is behind you I'm very sure.
I really was hoping for an introduction/inaugural address by the new USARK president on the current state of affairs and moving forward. May still yet, but I'm now excited for the future. I can't wait to get started on the good fight for 2013.
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He was interviewed on Herp Nation. Haven't had a chance to listen yet.
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01-23-2013, 08:52 PM
#136
Here is the link to his interview.
http://www.herpnation.com/audio/herp...dent-of-usark/
I think it was a good first interview for everyone to get to find out alittle bit more about him. Though it was just 1 brief interview I really felt his passion and the want for change and UNITY in the Herp Community!
And I couldn't agree more about us the Herp Community need to have the same passion, drive, commitment and willing to put in the same work with our efforts going forward!
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01-24-2013, 03:02 AM
#137
Re: How is Andrew Wyatt getting your info?
Yeah, his credentials fit the bill to an extent but I see a bit of a discrepancy in that he is "about education first" yet worked for a company notorious for misinformation... Who knows, maybe having a legitament (Wyatt never really said what he kept, just that he DID keep) boa guy at the helm.
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01-24-2013, 12:17 PM
#138
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Re: How is Andrew Wyatt getting your info?
Phil is no longer associated with Zoo Med. He now works for US. We are his bosses now. Let's give him a chance to prove that he is the man for the job. If he is, then we can all come together and finally start hitting back against our mutual enemies. If he's not the man for the job, we will replace him. Pretty simple. Let me say this from a personal view. I've known Phil for almost 15 years. He is a level headed man. He's smart, and he has great people skills. And he is one of us. I've got nothing but respect for him. Let's give him a chance to get up to speed and show us what he's got. That's the fair thing to do. I back him 100%. I back USARK 100%. And I back PJAC and NRAAC 100%. My insticts tell me this is the right horse to bet on. I wasn't wrong about the last one? I'm not suggesting people follow my lead because it's me saying it. Judge for yourself, give Phil the benifit of the doubt, and let's work together to protect and support our way of life. I'm going on the radio in a couple hours to go head to head with a lawyer from HSUS. I was at a county commission hearing yesterday to help protect a womans right to keep her Sugar Gliders and Hedgehogs. The battle continues. What are you guys doing to advance the fight? If you haven't, join USARK and PJAC. Make your voices heard. Do some school talks. Speak to people about snakes. Teach them. Stop the fear mongering that HSUS is promoting. Look guys, we are not stupid people. We are better then most in fact. With our knowlege and skills, we can work together and beat back these cults. I'm doing everything I can to protect our industry, all the way to laying myself open for 100% inspection of my entire life history. The least you guys can do is pay to join a couple of groups that need our money to help them fight for our rights. It's the least you can do. Help me please. Help yourselves.
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01-24-2013, 01:00 PM
#139
How is Andrew Wyatt getting your info?
I'm now a member of USARK, money is tight right now but I am giving. I hope as we move forward I'll be able to afford a little more.
Mr. Goss was working the USARK table at our show this past Saturday. After getting the announcement in the email about him being the new President, I talked to a few of the local vendors I know. They all had great things to say about him. He seemed like a good guy to me.
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01-24-2013, 01:28 PM
#140
Re: How is Andrew Wyatt getting your info?
I started my monthly renewing subscription earlier before the details of Wyatts departure were announced. Can't wait for the shirts to come in, hopefully wear mine for Feb 10th show I'm going to.
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