:emergency: Does bleach disinfect items that have been in contact with crypto?!?

[southwind]

Amonia does not kill crypto? Iv soaked the tubs 4L of amonia in a half full bath tup for 45 minutes, replaced the tubs as this is the only thing I have for my snakes, Will look for new ones tommorow! also washed the rack with it.

[SquamishSerpents]

Ammonia DOES kill crypto, about one of the only things. Also I wonder if a steamer would work, like a steam-shark? I know a cycle through the dishwasher should kill crypto, but I know that racks and CB70 tubs will NOT fit in a dishwasher...lol.

Here's a write-up I found on cornsnakes.com:

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=120730

Apparently a steam-shark thingie could work, sounds like you'd have to expose the surfaces to the steam shark for quite awhile though.

[kitedemon]

The more I read the worse it looks there is not 100% effective disinfectant. Peroxides have been effective (48% !!!! not the 6% from the drug stores) Silver nitrate and formeldahydes. I did not find mention of ammonia but my reading but there is a lot to dig through. To be honest here I would still replace the tubs this is where the greatest vector would likely be. The body? No idea what will be certain. I may give thought to not using it at all.

Hand steamers are great cleaning items but the home ones just don't get hot enough to do much I own a shark and 160º is about its max the other steamer I have is much hotter 220º but you would still need to hold a surface at this for 10-20 min. Too slow and impractical. They do however do a great job of penetrating cracks and blasting junk out.

[southwind]

It said 60c for 5-9 minutes, I can only imagine that 220c takes less time

[DancingFlutterby]

what about contacting your vet for a professional grade disinfectant? we use F10 but i couldn't say if that would do the trick for ya?

[southwind]

what about contacting your vet for a professional grade disinfectant? we use F10 but i couldn't say if that would do the trick for ya?

Great idea! THANKS!

[SquamishSerpents]

F10, Virkon ,Chlorhexedine, etc does not kill crypto oocytes.

http://www.f10biocare.co.uk/test.html




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[SquamishSerpents]

Oops I mean http://www.healthandhygiene.co.za/pr...ew.php?pid=184


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[kitedemon]

No it does not nor does most others. This is the biggest reason why I am un certain about ammonia working as well. F10 is a Quaternary ammonium compound with a twist or two it has ammonia at its root.
Squamish do you have any lab results on ammonia being effective?

Sadly the little bit of reading I have done keeps pointing to aldehydes (formaldehyde bases) something like Cidex plus they are serious chemicals (they actually can be a chemical sterilant) and the safety informations would need to be carefully followed.

Some information sources...
http://www.beautifuldragons.com/Disinfectants.html
great resource but needs to be double checked as it is not from a vetted source.

http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/BRM/res...fection101.pdf
university pub.

Sadly protozoacidal chemicals are very few and the ones that are listed as such are very toxic.

[southwind]

No it does not nor does most others. This is the biggest reason why I am un certain about ammonia working as well. F10 is a Quaternary ammonium compound with a twist or two it has ammonia at its root.
Squamish do you have any lab results on ammonia being effective?

Sadly the little bit of reading I have done keeps pointing to aldehydes (formaldehyde bases) something like Cidex plus they are serious chemicals (they actually can be a chemical sterilant) and the safety informations would need to be carefully followed.

Some information sources...
http://www.beautifuldragons.com/Disinfectants.html
great resource but needs to be double checked as it is not from a vetted source.

http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/BRM/res...fection101.pdf
university pub.

Sadly protozoacidal chemicals are very few and the ones that are listed as such are very toxic.

Im Very interested as well, it would seem that "Crypto" is killed best by father time from what I have heard here now.