Rea, I understand what your saying, but just possessing them illegally is a problem. The laws suck in some states, the laws are extremely strict here in Bayern Germany, I could easily keep burms, retics, anacondas, I know people who have them, legally, and can sell them to me, legally, but with out a school, and a permit, I cannot have them legally. I guess Im saying just because you can get them does not mean you should have them. Suck it up if you live in NY and dont own illegal snakes, wether its constrictors or venomous. It makes reptile owners look irresponsible and lawmakers think that they need to control us. Is there anyway to keep the animals legally, a permit or something?