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The original ignorance comment was made toward believers saying we were ignorant. Not directed towards the atheists. That word would be stubborn or close minded.


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On the contrary, being an atheist means that at some point in life, the atheist either 1) was introduced to religious beliefes and made an educated choice not to believe or 2) stopped and looked at what they had been taught since birth and questioned it, turning to atheism when their questions couldn't be answered. By definition they would have an open mind, not a closed one.

At its simplest form its like this. On one hand if you believe, you will spend eternity in the best place you can think of with the best people and things you can think of, or I turn to worm food. It's a no brainer for me anyways.


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Just as ones sexual orientation is not a choice, neither is belief in a higher power. Do you wake up every day and chose to believe in god in the face of complete lack of evidence? I don't believe that you do, however I could be wrong. For me and for everyone that I have talked to on the subject, believeing is not a choice, it is just how one feels. You BELIEVE in god. In the same vein, you feel that your snakes are beautiful, while someone that doesn't like snakes would not. I think my snakes are beautiful and I do not believe that there is a god, a higher power or anything supernatural in this universe. This is not a choice, it is just how I feel after interpreting all available evidence. Either way, if there is a god and you arrival at some gate and meet a gatekeeper after you die, would that god not appreciate honest questioning while living a good life more than someone saying "I believe" everyday, simply because they don't want to accept the fact that they will become maggot food when they die and want there to be something more?

Lol you cannot say that agnosticism is a position based on knowledge. You cannot "know" either way. We can BELIEVE in God or NOT BELIEVE in God (or any gods for that matter). You can't say "I know God doesn't exist" in the same way a believer can't say "I know God exists". There is information both for or against God. Therefor you must have an opinion or BELIEF.


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Please, share with me the information that is "for god," as you put it.



All of that aside, if a christian can make a post that celebrates what they BELIEVE, then I am free to make a post celebrating what I believe. I didn't say not to post anything like that, I didn't make any personal attacks, I just voiced my opinion. This is an open forum, I didn't disrespect anyone, I stated what I feel that religion is, and given that I was a believer for the first 20 some-odd years of my life I think that I am qualified to say what it is to me (i.e. my own opinion). If you don't agree with me, then feel free to let me know, but personal attacks? Nice. I'll let the family and friends of the 5 men that we lost know that you don't think that their loved ones are rotting in the ground. Also, if you can find one sentence where I ever proclaimed myself to be a war hero I will give you every penny that I make for the rest of my life.

Happy holidays everyone, whether the ones that you celebrate be religious or secular in nature. I hope that you all have the opportunity to be with family, friends and loved ones and that all that you wish to happen to/for you happens!