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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19261506


A BBC brief on the original doctors/scientists looking at IBD and Paramyxoviruses.....specifically states that these diseases are so hot that once infected, the snakes die within weeks.

Your assuming things on my part that aren't there....I was simply trying to add to the discussion and bring whatever knowledge I personally have to it as well. I never once stated that it ALWAYS kills fast, I am not purposefully attempting to confuse people. I thought the BBC article was brief but interesting piece...my specific point in linking that bbc article was that it contained a direct link to a peer reviewed journal article...as I stated, that contained an original research piece on the issues being discussed, ie IBD and paramyxovirus.

The point of forums are for information sharing and discussion if I am not mistaken? instead of reading into and assuming things from my statements that are not true nor accurate, if you have some links to these sources you speak about I, personally, would love to have useful and correct information shared with me.

I may not have a degree in herpetology but I do bring to the table 3 degrees in public health, biology and infectious disease (human focused not reptilian by any means)....I am a scientist by trade and by nature, and am always trying to further educate myself....like I have stated and asked for previously if you have accurate and legitimate sources for research and peer reviewed journal articles...if you don't mind sharing I would very much appreciate it.

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See the bolded part. that's your quote, I ASSumed nothing.

A week ago you were canvassing members on this forum with regards to the proper QT length:

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...81#post1972781

Two people gave you their opinions - that qualifies as the "vast majority"?

Earlier in this thread you stated that "the overall prevalence rates of IBD are incredibly low."

We've had Dr. Jacobson debunk that myth also. Studies have confirmed that asymptomatic carrier rates in boas can be as high as 33% of the captive population. Dr. Jacobson has even stated that supposedly clean "control" animals have come in as asymptomatic carriers.

Earlier in this thread you also stated:

".....first of all many of the viruses that we all seem to be freaked out about move more quickly in pythons than boas"

Not so. Dr. Jacobson himself baldly stated that no one knows how long it can remain dormant in pythons. OPMV affects everything and againl some snakes can go asymptomatic for well over 10 months. Aussie keepers who deal with more OPMV than us report times approaching two years.

I have a whole library of Jstor and other snake health and behavior articles. From time to time I email them to members here. With your three medical degrees you should be more than capable of finding the same information.

With IBD and OPMV, you can often read conflicting literature on it, especially if you read aggregate studies that summarize other earlier studies, all you will do is parrot old or bad information.

Many of the earliest IBD cases, the ones that seemingly ravaged whole collections in a matter of week (the cases that so much of the hookum we once believed) were never proven conclusively to be IBD. These cases made the round on Anapsid and other forums. Some even later proved to be OPMV or extremely nasty bacterial diseases.

For what it's worth I have a degree in Proctology with my overall area of expertise being the Bristol Stool chart. I also have a degree in Arm Pit Farting and a minor in Proper Wiping Techniques.