Quote Originally Posted by treachery View Post
point well taken roseyreps on the neg rep....I didn't know the "rules" about that till just today and didn't mean to dis anyone....

and boo to what you say about proving nothing, cause at the end of the day unless you have a degree in genetic science no ones an expert. I trust my community, so if someone sells me a lesser I turst they are telling the truth, but whats wrong with questioning the norm? The point is again.........and I could be wrong...is that we've been calling one the other so long that we've lost sight of what makes them a butter or a lesser. Educated guess, so if I breed for the traits, the rest will take care of it's self right? Lemurs, K-9's, even humans all over time can be "proven out". Close mindedness is a cancer, please don't let it in our community!
You are proving nothing by starting with unpure lines. For all you know your "lesser" could be a "butter". They are so similar, how is anyone to know? The only GOOD science, is by getting one directly from Ralph Davis, directly from his Platty Daddy. Other than that, your theory of dirty lines means that any other breeder could have a butter instead. So, yes. It is bad science, and it IS proving nothing because you are not starting with good BASE science.

I didn't say you cannot prove a line, that's obviously true. You cannot however, prove a certain lines traits vs another similar / exact if you are unsure of what you're starting with in the first place. That is just common sense. So boo all you like, just know no one is going to take your "science" seriously if you turn your nose up at starting correctly.

If you trusted your community, and your breeder, than why did you ask what you had in the first place? Obviously you don't trust the community, because you're saying the community / breeders have muddled the lines and now can no longer tell the difference. This is not a bad theory, but you are flip flopping on what point you are striving for. Stick with one or the other until you prove either right or wrong.