Raising ambient temperature options

[kitedemon]

My guess is it makes no difference in fact I suspect a white light would be adapted as well. (not suggesting that however) what I have found is that the lights I have heat the surrounding area so although there is a difference in ceiling and light it isn't as much as ceiling walls hard to say if there is a single large light area or if everything kinda glows. I wish we could experience what they do. Can they separate heat pit info from eye info or are they over laid? I wish there were an answer sadly biology can only answer some of the questions.

[mshadows]

....... i'm not as advanced...lol.... so i went thre rhp route , best decision i could have made, my ambient temps rarely varies a degree...

[kitedemon]

I have never had any luck using RHPs for ambient air temps they by them selves do not heat air. The result of a long debate was that they can be used to heat heavy objects and that in turn heat the air. It is very easy to prove with the panel on move your hand from away from the panel to directly under it. There is a noticeable and dramatic temperature change under the panel? This indicates it is not heating the air as if it were heat would be much more even. Often people believe the RHP is doing large amounts by measuring 'air' temps under it this is actually not air temps but the surface of the probe as it is a radiant heat system it heats objects not air.

[mshadows]

..... not disputing anything by no means but if don't have my rhp my enclosure would not be at 84 degrees in a 70 degree room.....whatever it is actually heating it is helping me keep correct ambient temps ....

[kitedemon]

Are you measuring under the panel of off to the side by a fair bit?

[mshadows]

..... my wireless unit is about 3 inches behind it and about 6 inches to the right of it ...

[iPHAILZ]

Thank you for all the input. I decided to go for a ceramic bulb in the end to prevent any possibility of lighting stressing the snake.

Exo Terra Ceramic Heat Emitter 40w

Arcadia Ceramic Lamp Holder & Bracket (screw fitting)

I have ordered the above and now only need a guard. my plan is to take the bracket off the fitting, drill a hole in the roof of the viv and have it like a normal household light. Does the reverse end of the ceramic get hot to the degree where it is likely to burn the wooden roof of the viv or will i be OK?

Also any recommendation on a guard, the ones i can find are 12x16cm which in my opinion are far too long and would look silly hanging from the roof of the viv?

Looking at this:



i will see how it goes but it does not look likely a stat will be required.

[Gpoop]

..... not disputing anything by no means but if don't have my rhp my enclosure would not be at 84 degrees in a 70 degree room.....whatever it is actually heating it is helping me keep correct ambient temps ....

Same here. My accurite is far away from my RHP and I actually turned it off last night. When my fluorescent light went out ambient temps dropped to 77F. When I have the rhp on the ambient temps stay at 80.

[kitedemon]

I guess they are not actually Radiant heat panels?!! Mine makes only 2 maybe 3 degrees of difference and I can feel a very marked difference in air temp. This for me calls into a HUGE safety issue with them as they easily get to over 160º (mine states 190º in the specs) and this would mean they would be capable of heating air temps dramatically over the safe temps. Interesting I wonder why they have change since I got mine a year or two ago? Mine are just flexwatt in a plastic box with some fibreglass. Does the housing get warm?

CHE and RHP emit IR radiation snakes see this just fine. I like lights as they warm the whole ceiling and the air so that rather than a bright spot it would be a over all light area. That is why I pick blue as studies show royal pythons have limited response to it. Red being in the IR family we know that they hunt via IR they are extremely sensitive to.

[dav4]

Does the housing get warm?

CHE and RHP emit IR radiation snakes see this just fine. I like lights as they warm the whole ceiling and the air so that rather than a bright spot it would be a over all light area. That is why I pick blue as studies show royal pythons have limited response to it. Red being in the IR family we know that they hunt via IR they are extremely sensitive to.

The housing to the RHP gets warm/almost hot to the touch...I'll hit it with with my IR gun tonight to see how warm.

It's funny you mention this today. I fed one bp a F/T rat last night. He usually hits the rat right at the opening to his hide and pulls it inside. Last night, he really went after it and ended up in front of his hide, directly below the RHP. After 2 minutes, he ended his wrap, let go of the rat, and then acted confused for the next 5 minutes or so, periodically moving toward the RHP, then back to his hide (which did have rat residue on it) then back to the rat.... Anyway, he eventually ate the rat, but I do think the RHP heat footprint was confusing him.