Where do you sell most of your normal hatchlings?

[OctagonGecko729]

I think that is the intention part of it. For example her example of euthanizing a dog, because it was less money or the same to buy a new dog.
You are killing an animal (not you, like YOU but you as in general) to save money. Where / what is that money spent on? Irrelevant. Bottom line is you are killing an animal to save money.
USING said animal to feed another animal, is not the same intention IMO. Now you could argue, well breeding your own, and culling them to feed is saving money, so it's similar / the same. Yes and no, now it seems the hairs begin to be split. We have to draw the line somewhere in our heads, or we end up logically making excuses for things that by themselves are against our beliefs.

Example: I am against taking another humans life. I will take another humans life in defense of my own life, or my family's. Well, if that is the case, someone who is threatening my life...is it then alright to take the life of someone who hits my car with my family in it? They threatened my life, and my family's life, after all. Or what about financially? If my job is the only thing keeping my family with food in their mouths, and someone fires me for unjust reasons, they are threatening my life, and my family's life...so do I have the right to take theirs?

Those are extreme, but you can bridge logical arguments to the point of insanity and inhumanity. You, as a person (we) have to draw the line somewhere. It's that entire "Gray area" people talk about. Nothing is black or white, murder is not always wrong. Killing an animal is not always wrong. There is gray area in every aspect of life, it's up to us as people to judge where our morals draw the line.

I think her meaning was, if you do not financially plan on caring and raising for all of the babies you produce, you shouldn't breed to begin with. This is often the advice given to people who are breeding for the first time. Because, as rare as the case may be, there is always a chance you do not sell your clutch, and you should be able to care for them. If you cannot care for them, you should not pair in the first place.

I probably screwed that up entirely, but my brain went on a road trip so...yea...rambles for all!

I think going into human ethics (morality) is probably stepping in the wrong direction and I disagree that all of those examples are subjective. I will refrain from becoming more tangential though as I'm sure you all will appreciate .

I also do agree with "if you do not financially plan on caring and raising for all of the babies you produce, you shouldn't breed to begin with." and think that as a principle thats pretty sound. With the exception that I still don't get how raising BPs for feeders is "better" then say raising them for compost.

Again, I fully understand peoples empathetic connection to an animal that they keep as a pet but that doesn't make it "wrong" to euthanize, its just a personal preference. Which is still fine and dandy because you do not need to purchase from people that you know practice any kind of euthanasia that you disagree with. I also, when at all possible refrain from purchasing from wholesalers and importers because I have noticed through personal experience a correlation between cheap animals and abuse.

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I am speechless, completely dumbfounded by some of these comments. Really? I think some people should really not be allowed to own or breed animals with the mentalities that they have.

Thats kind of passive aggressive, I would appreciate if you would elaborate, sorry if I have offended you at all.