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[Ridinandreptiles]

8 months. i would truely speak my mind but this forum is too strict about language

[dr del]

New to the discussion and have been bad and not read the previous pages.

Any girls in the group?

The best way to look at these things is not the imposition but the opportunities they give.

So this is a good time to practice socialisation and learning how to be civil in a discussion with someone who holds different beliefs than you. You will be stunned later to find how rare that gift is and how well those who have it can progress in life.

It may also provide you with a framework to discuss your choices in the area of religion with your parents. To them they would be failing as parents if they didn't try - they are not doing it out of malice. Talking to others who may be in the exact same situation can only help you understand their viewpoint even if you never agree with it.

Just my ignorant 2 cents.

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8 months. i would truely speak my mind but this forum is too strict about language

To be fair - if you can't explain it without breaking the language rules then you need to work on your expression skills.

Certainly when talking to your parents.

[Ridinandreptiles]

[/QUOTE] To be fair - if you can't explain it without breaking the language rules then you need to work on your expression skills.

Certainly when talking to your parents. [/QUOTE]


i am able to make a logical, well spoken arguement...but what i am "feeling" is a whole different thing

gsarchie- i started on the god delusion and that book is 100% what i needed to read. thanks for pointing that one out to me

[dr del]

Just remember,

As smart as Dawkins undoubtedly is, he is a complete fail in actually talking to people without causing offense.

In fact if you leave him alone in a room ungagged he will eventually offend himself.

He has all the tact of a chainsaw to the goolies. This is not the way to end up with a happy family.

And that is worth more than any amount of time spent sitting in a room with other people.

[gsarchie]

gsarchie- i started on the god delusion and that book is 100% what i needed to read. thanks for pointing that one out to me[/QUOTE]

1) You can call me Bruce, brother.

2) YES!!! Haha, I can't tell you how happy it makes me that you are reading that book! If you come away and still tell me that you believe in god, then I will be 100% okay with that, what matters to me is that you are considering the other side of the argument with an open mind, as it seems that you've been considering the initial side that you were exposed to for a good period of time and still can't quite stomach it. Please let me know how it goes and if you want to engage in any discussion about it while you are still reading it please feel free to PM me and we can chat back and forth. For that matter, feel free to post an open discussion in the off-topic cafe. Mods - can you post right in the QT or is that a place reserved for threads to be moved if they get out of hand? Happy reading and I'm interested to see how you take everything in.

[rabernet]

Hot topic subjects, such as religion, politics, etc are encouraged to be started in QT. So, yes, you may start a thread in QT.

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[gsarchie]

Sounds good, Robin. Thank you!

[OctagonGecko729]

Sorry I also did not read the previous pages but I will offer a bit of advice. Simply put, you are in a coercive situation, you really do not have many options. I would simply do what they tell you to so you can keep the animals but don't try to justify what they are doing now or later in your life. Once you have more independance (not the threat of losing your animals) then you can address these issues with them but until then just try to minimize confrontations.

[mechnut450]

O know the feelnig as a kid I was forced to go to church and the youth bible groups and other such good for me stuff. ( enjoyed boyscouts ) but I personally believe that all relgion is just for mental piece of mind .. ( my fiance and scientoloigst ) and I find that it just a relgion that like a common sence for idiots type such) .. I say like rest tough it out then once free of it just put it in the past and go one with your life. I have no true relgious believes and I comfotable with my life ( once I can fnd a new spine lol I irked mne so it hurts to even sit up right now even with pain meds for when this happens)

[Roadtrash]

Just remember that turning 18 doesn't mean you can do anything you want to. As long as you live with your parents there will be rules as there should be. Rules help bring structure to your life whether you like it or not. You have a whole life ahead of you to decide if religion is going to be part of it or not.

Like some of the others said you just have to suck it up and bear with it while you are still living at home. Once you are on your own you can do things your way but even then you will have rules and laws that regulate what you can and can't do. Trust me, when you get out on your own there will be many things that you won't like or find annoying but you won't have a choice about. Life is not fair but you have to make the best of what you have.

As for losing your snakes, that is just their way of getting you to follow the rules. Years ago people would take a belt to your butt to do the same thing.

At any rate once you're out on your own you can go to church if you want to or stay at home and do other things. Of course you'll have to find a place that will allow you to have snakes as some places have rules against them. There are compromises to be made in everything you do in life so you better get used to it.

As some of the others said talk with your parents in a civil way and let them know your feelings. If you discuss it with them in an adult manner maybe they will understand your point of view and you all can come to a good comprise that everyone will be happy with.

I am not saying you have to follow their religious beliefs but you do have to follow their rules as long as you are in their home. You can believe any way you want to, that's up to you.

Okay my rant is over I just wanted to put my two cents worth in. Whatever happens I hope it works out for you. Good luck.