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    Re: Benefits of live feeding?

    considering i feed my 40 royals a week plus my boas , rats , house snakes, hognose ect

    i have a supply of live on site pushing at times 300 + rats
    200 multies
    150 mice

    i still feed F/T to all bar 3 and the odd pain to swap hatchling
    2 import live feeders
    1 re home mistreated and wouldn't eat owt but live afterwards

    all i do is defrost em in the morning go to work come back warm them over the rad in the rep room for a while
    maybe im lazy taking 1 tray of defrost up is better than 10 tubs of live

    feed the royals
    left overs go in the boas / what ever looks hungry

    now as far as nutritional data goes from my own personal weighings with the live feeders V's F/T
    it would be hard to say as my live feeders are generally not utter pigs like those on F/T

    but one thing i will throw out there those here that are on multies are packing on leaner muscle than those on rats feeding 2x 70g multies to 1x 150g rat

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    There's plenty of reasons live is better.

    I would venture to guess live eaters eat more consistently over time and therefor grow at a faster rate than most F/T eating snakes.

    Live rats can be plucked and put back into their tubs over and over without having to toss it in the garbage.

    Time, something more valuable than the savings f/t might bring you.

    I actually hate f/t feedings especially with snakes that need it dangled for 5 minutes or longer to get it to think about eating...
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    i find live easier since there is a place not far from my home to buy from, that and i do like the hunt before the feeding thats just not the same with frozen + like said above i hated sitting there dangling the rat for a few minutes waiting for it to eat i did the zombie dance but they seem to go for it faster(atleast in my experience) feeding live than the zombie dance method

    those are the advantages i see to live, i know that feeding live gives a chance at your snake getting bit but aslong as you watch closely how the rat gets coiled it shouldnt be a problem, i just use the tongs to get int he way of the rats teeth if it even looks remotly possible that the rat has a chance of biting which really i think ive only seen a couple times usually they are pretty good at striking the right spot lol

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    Re: Benefits of live feeding?

    with 6 boas and 2 carpets i get none to throw in the bin

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    Re: Benefits of live feeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by EricWright View Post
    I didn't realize I said that. Must be written real small between the lines.

    What you have done is called a "straw man." You invent a position that I have never held, yet attribute it to me as if it was my own. You then attack that position and prove me wrong. You feel as though you have won something, while in fact, you have only attacked an invented person (the "straw man"). Classical logical fallacy.

    You called feeding them live "interesting"...what can that possibly mean? I inferred the same as the responder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantra View Post
    i find live easier since there is a place not far from my home to buy from, that and i do like the hunt before the feeding thats just not the same with frozen + like said above i hated sitting there dangling the rat for a few minutes waiting for it to eat i did the zombie dance but they seem to go for it faster(atleast in my experience) feeding live than the zombie dance method

    those are the advantages i see to live, i know that feeding live gives a chance at your snake getting bit but aslong as you watch closely how the rat gets coiled it shouldnt be a problem, i just use the tongs to get int he way of the rats teeth if it even looks remotly possible that the rat has a chance of biting which really i think ive only seen a couple times usually they are pretty good at striking the right spot lol
    With one snake, MAYBE you can do this. Otherwise, I assure you the snake is more stressed out with you poking around with tongs, while he is eating!.

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    The only real upside that I can think of is that you can fatten up the rat to your liking. You can ensure they are eating good so that in turn your snake gets a better meal. but even then, this is only possible if you keep the rats a while before feeding. I feed live but wish I could feed f/t.
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    Re: Benefits of live feeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    There's plenty of reasons live is better.

    I would venture to guess live eaters eat more consistently over time and therefor grow at a faster rate than most F/T eating snakes.

    Live rats can be plucked and put back into their tubs over and over without having to toss it in the garbage.

    Time, something more valuable than the savings f/t might bring you.

    I actually hate f/t feedings especially with snakes that need it dangled for 5 minutes or longer to get it to think about eating...

    Live eaters do not eat more consistently over time. Live rats in tubs suggests your are now raising/maintaining live rodents which offsets any time you might be saving. I have five BPs, that have all been finicky at one time or another, right now 4 of them grab the FT rat within 60 seconds, the 5th, prefers I drop it in her tub, and leave the room. If you are dangling for 5 mins, you are doing something wrong.

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    Why does this debate even matter. Feed what works best for you and others opinions be damned. I feed live, it works well for me and mine. I don't worry about what works better for someone else.

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