Heartbreak............and triumph. {GRAPHIC PICTURE WARNING}

[WarriorPrincess90]

...and all those born without their full mental capacity can be added to the list. Of course, that would mean you would go as well, but hey I'm okay with that.

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The other het emerged this morning, and has a lovely banded pattern. It's big baby too, at 78 grams. I will be posting updates after the babies shed and begin to feed, for those people here whom I actually care to hear from, since I know most of the people here aren't such { an impolite term for a donkey }.

Gale

Yay! Glad to hear the little one is doing well! You got a couple of big babies! Looking forward to the updates...and loving your snarky comments.

[Robyn@SYR]

Sorry about this result, keep your head up.

[Pac0]

Im sorry for your loss and happy for your survivors. After all the forums of many types i have been on, somehow i knew there was going to be the one dueche that had something to say. It was just a matter of time.

BTW : beautiful pied you got yourself there !

[Quiet Tempest]

Truly sorry for the losses. The surviving babies are beautiful, though, and congrats on hitting your pied.

[dr del]

Ok folks.

No more personal attacks or name calling.

I realise this is a touchy subject but there are better ways of dealing with disagreements.


dr del

[angllady2]

Sorry Derek,

I know better, but sometimes when a nerve gets touched in the wrong way I loose it a little bit. I will be good from now on I promise.

Gale

[Xotik]

Sorry Derek,

I know better, but sometimes when a nerve gets touched in the wrong way I loose it a little bit. I will be good from now on I promise.

Gale

Personally, I think you handled that very well.

My most sincere condolences on the first baby, I've never lost a baby before (er, never had a hatchling to lose...) so I have no idea how it feels - but I'm guessing its somewhere in the neighborhood of gut wrenching and awful. The other pied is absolutely adorable, and that tail is to cute for words. I'm glad the other het came out as well, and hopefully everybody gets to thriving for you.

We all make mistakes, we are human. Breathe deep, and carry on, cause that's what reality and life are going to do, so we might as well keep up. Good luck Lady, I hope things turn around for you!

[spankege]

First: Twisted cords? I've hatched out over 1000 ball pythons eggs and NEVER have I seen a twisted cord. You people worry me...
Next, Gale; You can take this any way you want, but unfortunately, this entire season for you has been a wonderful education for those reading NOT to do what you've done; from cutting to early, to ripping holes in your eggs, temp spikes and horrifically deformed babies that weren't culled. It's sad that it all happened during the same season, but I really do hope that everyone can learn from your mistakes.
Mostly you.
Good luck next year.

What a terrible comment to someone that took the time to post there mistake. To teach other people! You must know everything in the world I can see this by your post. Gale thank you for taking the time to post your experience, it will teach many people. Thanks

[raghaim]

Hello everyone. This has been a very rough few days for me. On Sunday September the 2nd, I lost my very first pied hatchling. It was a brutal and heartbreaking moment, and only now do I have the strength to post about it.

Things did not go as planned with this clutch. Due to the earlier temp spike, I was running the incubator at 83/84. I knew this meant the eggs would develop more slowly, so I wasn't overly concerned. On day 64 I decided to cut the eggs. Figuring this should be plenty late enough. Two of the four eggs remained attached to each other through incubation, which is never a big deal. However, when I attempted to separate the eggs before cutting the clutch, I noticed they did not want to come apart. Now all the other clutches I've had, which granted are not many, the eggs separated easily when the clutch was ready. So I knew then these eggs were not ready to cut. But my impatient hubby was hovering over my shoulder wanting to know if I had hit the pied, and his insistence coupled with my own impatience conspired to drown out the voice of reason that told me to wait. So I decided I'd just very carefully force the eggs apart.

Gale

Cut on days 64 ????...wasn't it should be okay??
i had 4 clutch and cut at 54-55 days.... and they alive??

was it because the temp??? 83/84?

sorry to hear that though.... Keep on Trying.....

[GoldSheep]

@raghaim
Wait until they pip. Treating infections with saline, feeling terrible about yourself because you killed life and if you'd waited it could have been better, is not something I recommend.

I'm on day 57 and I will wait for them to pip. I'll wait til day 69 if I have to. I'm sure they can do it on their own. They did last year.

BTW, thanks for this thread. Keeps me stronger on the idea of not cutting until one of them pokes their head out.