So here's what I'm pondering.... Thoughts???

[snakesRkewl]

People need to get one thing straight, a butter is a lesser is a butter is a lesser, even if they are different lines of the same thing, they do exactly the same thing.

I wouldnt get a pastel lesser. If you make a butter/lesser BEL then breed it how will you tell the difference between the offspring? Thats why i wouldnt do it personally.

So I guess I should sell the butter lesser BEL and move on to something else??

Our butter and lesser look very different from each other, and so do their offspring,
it's easy to tell the difference even if it's the same genetic.

[Mike41793]

I agree with you Jerry, i think theyre the same too. But not everyone thinks that obviously.

So even in combos you can tell them apart pretty easily? If you have any pic for examples thatd be awesome man!

I didnt mean to sound combative or questioning your methods, i was just curious. I was also just saying my opinion. I wouldnt personally do that pairing bc im not confident enough identifying lessers from butters (for selling purposes. Not everyones gunna wanna buy pastel butter/lessers if i couldnt tell my offspring apart lol). Like i said though, i personally believe theyre different lines of the same morph.

[DooLittle]

I'm going to get rid of my mojo, and make room for a pastel lesser/or butter (I like the looks of them better than mojo anyhow). Start saving my money, and then as soon as my enchi is out of qt, I will start looking. I guess I will see at that time, what I find that catches my eye more between the two. I must have a queen bee....aaaaand a stinger bee....

"Hi, my name is DrDooLittle. I am addicted to all things bee".

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[Mike41793]

Mmmm stingerbees...

Yea see the problem is when i say "make what you wanna make first", people forget that your daughter is looking over your shoulder going "nooo get this instead. And this and this and this!" lmao. At least she's into cool stuff like herps!

[DooLittle]

Mmmm stingerbees...

Yea see the problem is when i say "make what you wanna make first", people forget that your daughter is looking over your shoulder going "nooo get this instead. And this and this and this!" lmao. At least she's into cool stuff like herps!

Oh yeah, stingers on the way!

Lol, yeah, showed my daughter another pic of a queen bee today. She's on board for the pastel lesser/butter to get both. She likes the queens too, so long as she still gets a BEL. She's pretty funny too, she tried to tell me she was taking them when she moved out! :eek:

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[Mike41793]

Oh yeah, stingers on the way!

Lol, yeah, showed my daughter another pic of a queen bee today. She's on board for the pastel lesser/butter to get both. She likes the queens too, so long as she still gets a BEL. She's pretty funny too, she tried to tell me she was taking them when she moved out! :eek:

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How does she not have her own rack yet? Once you produce a few babies i think she needs to get her own setup going with her own personal hand selected holdbacks!
EDIT: (you know, that way she doesnt take any of your snakes when she moves out. Just takes her own. I bet you wouldnt have to twist her arm too much to go along with that plan lol).

Queenbees are nice, i think i still like stinger bees better though lol!

[1nstinct]

Deff go the route toward the queen bees, I am.one of my first pairs will be killer bee to my pastel lesser hopes of a female killer queen bee or a queen bee. Then i plan to add some enchi combos in later down the road, just because i need a female pastel pied(or other combo pied) for my male pied(hes getting lonely not having any planned dates).
Go the route that you think will make you have a bigger smile on your face.
And i agree lesser and butters same morph(might be different lines), you can have great and poor examples of both.

[DooLittle]

How does she not have her own rack yet? Once you produce a few babies i think she needs to get her own setup going with her own personal hand selected holdbacks!
EDIT: (you know, that way she doesnt take any of your snakes when she moves out. Just takes her own.

That is a great idea!

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[snakesRkewl]

I agree with you Jerry, i think theyre the same too. But not everyone thinks that obviously.

That's true, not sure why, it's been proven over and over that they do the same thing depending on what that particular lesser or butter looks like.

So even in combos you can tell them apart pretty easily? If you have any pic for examples thatd be awesome man!

I would love to show how easy it was when we did the pairing last year, but the butter was sold to a friend before I got good pics of it, and he sold it later so I have no comparison pics to share.
I will say when we bred our lesser to butter there was one that obviously looked like the no spot lesser and one that looked like the butter female.
Our lesser looks WAY different than our butter so it's an easy call and should be the same when we breed the lesser/butter lucy this coming year.

I didnt mean to sound combative or questioning your methods, i was just curious. I was also just saying my opinion.

You didn't sound combative nor did I take it that way

[CD CONSTRICTORS]

I'm going to get rid of my mojo, and make room for a pastel lesser/or butter (I like the looks of them better than mojo anyhow). Start saving my money, and then as soon as my enchi is out of qt, I will start looking. I guess I will see at that time, what I find that catches my eye more between the two. I must have a queen bee....aaaaand a stinger bee....

"Hi, my name is DrDooLittle. I am addicted to all things bee".

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I thought Bee's were way cool till I started looking at Mike Wilbanks line of Nuclear bp's on his site.

Get back to me when you check them out. Get a 1.0 Fire Butter and start throwing that thing at some girls I have a few 0.1 Spiders, A 0.1 Spinner and a 0.1 Pinstripe waiting for him to grow up next year.