ID this ball for a noob please?

[Solarsoldier001]

sorry i did mean to put DrDooLittle... my phone auto corrected i guess and I didn't notice... I know that DooLittle is a she ;P

[dprballs]

Thanks guys. I have the John Berry book Designer morphs (i dunno if u guys have that in the US as i think john is based over here. Its basically a comprhensive list with pictures of boa and ball morphs) and it says cinamon is a tawny brown snake, with a clear belly with interconnected side markings and most have a degree of dorsal striping which is great and a real help. I wonder if theres a website that helps with morph identification.

What im imaging is a cinny next to a normal say with the different parts highlighted. I know im asking a bit much, but you never know!!

Thanks for all this help its all becoming clearer now, the way you described the alien heads and donuts has helped me a great deal!! never heard those terms before cheers buddy

Nah you didnt offend me at all man!

The first pic is of my cinny girl. Her back is much more blushed and she has alot more donuts. Her donuts dont really connect much. The second is my cinny male. He has partially striping and his alien heads connect alot near the end of his tail. Its all variety within the morph, but theyre both still cinnis. I kinda like the variety though once i start breeding im going to try and breed for cinnis with clean backs and connected alien heads or striped back with lots of donuts. I cant wait to see what kind of babies they throw for me!

The normal pics are both the same snake snake lol. In your defence she is a dark normal imo. Here is a few shots of my step brothers snake. She is a normal too but much lighter. I cant wait to mix the fire gene in with her!

Are alien heads / donuts typical of cinnys? what would be considered a perfect cinny? u say u like clean back connected alien heads, would 1 like that be worth more/be more deisrable than 1 with donuts and a lot of dorsal striping or is it just preference??

[Mike41793]

Are alien heads / donuts typical of cinnys? what would be considered a perfect cinny? u say u like clean back connected alien heads, would 1 like that be worth more/be more deisrable than 1 with donuts and a lot of dorsal striping or is it just preference??

Most balls have alien heads. The donut shaped or connecting alien heads are typical to cinni's tho. I think its really personal preference. The morph varies a bit. Alot of morphs vary but can still be considered good examples of the morph. My preference is blushed back with connecting heads. But i think both of mine are still good examples of the morph. Foschi Exotic Serpents has some hot black back cinni's. I believe hers are genetic. I hope my girls clean back can be proven genetic too.

[dprballs]

I hope my girls clean back can be proven genetic too.

and this would then be considered a new line of cinnamon i presume?