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Thanks guys. I have the John Berry book Designer morphs (i dunno if u guys have that in the US as i think john is based over here. Its basically a comprhensive list with pictures of boa and ball morphs) and it says cinamon is a tawny brown snake, with a clear belly with interconnected side markings and most have a degree of dorsal striping which is great and a real help. I wonder if theres a website that helps with morph identification.
What im imaging is a cinny next to a normal say with the different parts highlighted. I know im asking a bit much, but you never know!!
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World of ball pythons. Then look at the morph list. That has pictures of morphs, with description. I will try to go find a link.
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Last edited by Mike41793; 09-19-2012 at 04:38 PM.
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I know doolittle talks about her balls alot but she has a daughter and a hubby so she's definetly a she! 
What she looks like is still a mystery though... *cough cough* female keepers thread *cough cough*
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Lol, last time I checked, yes, I was female. :p
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Re: ID this ball for a noob please?
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 Originally Posted by dprballs
Thanks thats great buddy. People on here really are helpful!  Although i would have said the first two are normal and the second two cinny :S
the first 'cinny doesnt seem to have interconnected side markings although the 2nd one does.
and the first normal looks particularly dark, w/out connected markings, but the second one does definately have them??
sorry if ive offended u btw im sure ur snakes are what you say im just trying to learn 
Nah you didnt offend me at all man!
The first pic is of my cinny girl. Her back is much more blushed and she has alot more donuts. Her donuts dont really connect much. The second is my cinny male. He has partially striping and his alien heads connect alot near the end of his tail. Its all variety within the morph, but theyre both still cinnis. I kinda like the variety though once i start breeding im going to try and breed for cinnis with clean backs and connected alien heads or striped back with lots of donuts. I cant wait to see what kind of babies they throw for me! 
The normal pics are both the same snake snake lol. In your defence she is a dark normal imo. Here is a few shots of my step brothers snake. She is a normal too but much lighter. I cant wait to mix the fire gene in with her! 


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Re: ID this ball for a noob please?
 Originally Posted by Mike41793
Thanks for all this help its all becoming clearer now, the way you described the alien heads and donuts has helped me a great deal!! never heard those terms before cheers buddy
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