Do anyone avoid these combos...?

[Mike41793]

Well i dont necessarily have a problem with subtle morphs on their own. I have a fire and love fire combos. I plan to make alot of them and am pretty confident ill be able to tell them apart. (I like to think it helps that my fire boy is hot, but i dont wanna brag lol). The only problem is a combo like a vanilla cream. And what i would then produce from that being hard to distinguish.

[angllady2]

Having both a vanilla male and a fire male. Having bred both males as co-dom makers and combo makers, I myself, personally, can easily distinguish my vanillas and fires even at hatching.
That being said. I bought the best and brightest examples of the morphs I could find. I think that makes a big difference. I have seen many, many fires that I could barely distinguish from a normal. The same thing with vanillas. If you bred one of those I am quite sure telling the offspring apart would be nearly impossible. The key to a project like this would be to use the best examples of the prospective morph you could find, then the task becomes easy. Now, do I know for sure if I bred both to a co dom female, say a mojave, that I'd be able to tell if it were a vanilla mojave or fire mojave, not yet. But I suspect I could.


Gale

[satomi325]

See the problem is im not really a huge mojo fan though :/

I would like a hypo mojo (like jinx's lol) to put to my lesser and OG when they get up to size BUT i kinda like the idea of a super lesser. Like alot haha. But besides hypo mojos, im partial to almost anything hypo, theres not a whole lot of mojo combos that i really like.

I'm a big fan of any of the BEL complex morphs and hypos in general. And putting them to my pin = me drooling. I love king pins, emperor pins, and jigsaws. The Jigsaw (Hypo), Mojo Hypo, and Black Mojo (Hypo) are part of my Mojo project.
Maybe even a Cherry Bomb some day...

[Mike41793]

Having both a vanilla male and a fire male. Having bred both males as co-dom makers and combo makers, I myself, personally, can easily distinguish my vanillas and fires even at hatching. Now, do I know for sure if I bred both to a co dom female, say a mojave, that I'd be able to tell if it were a vanilla mojave or fire mojave, not yet. But I suspect I could.

That being said. I bought the best and brightest examples of the morphs I could find. I think that makes a big difference. I have seen many, many fires that I could barely distinguish from a normal. The same thing with vanillas. If you bred one of those I am quite sure telling the offspring apart would be nearly impossible. The key to a project like this would be to use the best examples of the prospective morph you could find, then the task becomes easy.

Gale

Ok thats kinda what i figured. I tried to buy a really hot fire. In your honest opinion would you say hes a good example of the morph? (You wont totally crush me if you say no lol. I can always produce some babies and hold back the better ones to clean up my lines even more before i attempt to mix in vanilla.)

With my normal here:



At the very end of a shed cycle here:

[Mike41793]

I'm a big fan of any of the BEL complex morphs and hypos in general. And putting them to my pin = me drooling. I love king pins, emperor pins, and jigsaws. The Jigsaw (Hypo), Mojo Hypo, and Black Mojo (Hypo) are part of my Mojo project.
Maybe even a Cherry Bomb some day...

I wish you the best of luck producing some of those wicked combos!

Idk, i just prefer lessers/butters over mojos. Just a difference of opinion really.

[angllady2]

Ok. Brutally honest opinion of the fire. Here goes.

He's really too yellow for my tastes. Fire's should be creamy pale, not yellow. That being said, I'd guess 80% of that is the photos. I bet in real life he's a nice creamy tan, like mine.

He's got a couple good, big flames. Those are a plus. Fires should have huge flames, the more the better to me.

He's got some really good, heavy blushing going on. Another big plus. Mine have a ton of blushing, and by breeding my already heavily blushed male fire to the best blushed normal female I had, I got some ridiculous fire babies. Which was my goal.

Gale

[Mike41793]

Ok. Brutally honest opinion of the fire. Here goes.

He's really too yellow for my tastes. Fire's should be creamy pale, not yellow. That being said, I'd guess 80% of that is the photos. I bet in real life he's a nice creamy tan, like mine.

He's got a couple good, big flames. Those are a plus. Fires should have huge flames, the more the better to me.

He's got some really good, heavy blushing going on. Another big plus. Mine have a ton of blushing, and by breeding my already heavily blushed male fire to the best blushed normal female I had, I got some ridiculous fire babies. Which was my goal.

Gale

Thanks, appreciate your thoughts. You do have some very nice fires!

It could be the photos or he could be yellow. Ive never had another fire to compare him to side by side in person. I'll try to get some outdoor shots of him in natural sunlight. That would probably make it easier to really distinguish.

Either way, like i said, im going to try to do my best to holdback nice ones and clean up my line. Then down the road maybe mix some vanilla into it.

[angllady2]

Here are a few pictures of my male and female fire.

The girl Mori:




The boy Osa:




By comparison, this is my vanilla Kodama:





You can see they are very similar, but still distinct. At least to me they are.


Gale