Genetic issue guide for newbies and others??

[mechnut450]

So after reading a BOI on fauna about an auctionwere he buyer ( it appears that they heard of a breeding related issue with a desert line) so it got me thinking about the other known but not talked about genetic issue related with some morphs. I would like to build a guide to be added to the morph related section for people to look up to help them research their next possible morph purchase.

I know of 2 morph relate issues
spider with the wobble issue
( being a minor shake when over excited to the total train wreck ( corkscrewing )

I also know of the carmel having the kinking issue to ( not having it to it being lethal in some cases ) to the snake.
I heard that some of the piebald don't start off to well ( not had this issue) with my 3 I produce in the last 3 years.


I think this should be more imporant than the money a breeder is getting for a snake, cause it not always about the $$$ the health and well being of a snake is more important. That why such a base should be out ther to help everyone. I hate to see breeder getting bad guy BOI cause a person felt thet the info should been posted befoer they bought a snake ( cause they never found out about )

[satomi325]

There are already a few threads stating all of the known genetic issues.
Check out the NERD youtube vids about lethal combos and genetic issues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uStCAKMbnqQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fhnR5YdGdI&feature=plcp




But here are some that I can think of the top of my head:

Super Cinnamon/Super Black Pastel/Silver Bullets: Duckbilling, kinking
Super Lesser/Butter, ButterxLesser (Blue-Eyed Leucistic): Bug-eyes
Desert: Female infertility
Spider: Wobble
Woma: Wobble
Powerball: Wobble
Super Sable: Wobble
Caramel Albino: Kinking, sub infertility

Pearl (super hidden-gene-woma): lethal

[JaGv]

i got a question about the spider wobble if anyone can aswer it for me.

what if a spider shows no sign of the wobble or corkscrewing?

i had a spider from tim bailey and it wobbled and corkscrewed occasionaly and also missed mice once in awhile.

i also had a spider i recently sold that showed no head wobble or corkscrewing and always was accurate when stricking at it's food.

[satomi325]

i got a question about the spider wobble if anyone can aswer it for me.

what if a spider shows no sign of the wobble or corkscrewing?

i had a spider from tim bailey and it wobbled and corkscrewed occasionaly and also missed mice once in awhile.

i also had a spider i recently sold that showed no head wobble or corkscrewing and always was accurate when stricking at it's food.

All spiders have it. The level of the wobble is variable though. It can be so slight that it's unnoticeable and doesn't affect the animal at all.
And sometimes they develop it with age.

[AK907]

All spiders have it. The level of the wobble is variable though. It can be so slight that it's unnoticeable and doesn't affect the animal at all.
And sometimes they develop it with age.

Yup and it can come out of nowhere. I've never had a spider that was affected enough by its wobble that it compromised its quality of life, although I suppose in very rare cases it could be. All of our spiders were eating and breeding machines.

I've heard that champagne balls have some wobble too. I can't vouch for this, though.

[JaGv]

i know all of them have it. i was just wondering why if they were both the same size one showed it alot and the other 1 for the months i had him never seemed to wobble

[MaxT815]

i know all of them have it. i was just wondering why if they were both the same size one showed it alot and the other 1 for the months i had him never seemed to wobble

Its extremely variable, some have it earlier and kind of grow out of it if you will some develop it the older they get, some never really show signs ever. Just depends on the snake but in my experience they'll all get it at some point

[mechnut450]

I have 2 spiders one it bearly knowdess the other I can't even really see it unless he overexcited then I can see a slight wobble, in both cases I have to look for it to notice it. I wanted a text version of the issues so I could print it out for refernce ( myself ) in case I ever loose net and get a bunch of snakes dopped on me again lol so Iknow what I looking at/for to prevent a un needed trip to the vet if just something that happens in that morph. ( like the minor kinks and not freaking out thinking I just had a snake dumped on me with a broken spine. )