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    Thanks Jerry. I usually figure the markers that are often spoke of (like het pied markers) are actually dominate traits of the normal parent and I figured all hets were non visual with no distinct markings. I never thought that one might effect the other. thanks for the clarity.

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    Here is a little write up by the originator of the morph.

    http://www.coreywoods.com/het.shtml

    I have a woods line het red at home myself and it looks very much like the picture that the OP posted.
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    Re: Het Red?

    Quote Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    Thanks Jerry. I usually figure the markers that are often spoke of (like het pied markers) are actually dominate traits of the normal parent and I figured all hets were non visual with no distinct markings. I never thought that one might effect the other. thanks for the clarity.
    To expand on that a little, for everyone's sake, when a yellowbelly and a specter land on the same allele sparks happen(not the morph, lol).
    When vanilla and fire land on the same allele same thing, something quite unexpected happens, same with the crystals.
    Genes that land on the same allele coming together to make a completely different looking snake altogether.
    The same thing happens with the super forms, super pastel, BEL complex, Ivory's, etc, the gene's interact with each other and make magic.
    So in that same light I believe het traits mess with the normal gene being that they are on the same allele, and present themselves in very discrete ways, visual ways, aka markers.
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    Technically, if the animal shows outward signs of carrying a gene, then it is NOT a recessive gene...it would just be a subtle incomplete dominant gene.

    If it's truly a recessive gene, the animal will not be distinguishable from a normal. Albino is an example of a recessive gene. There are no 'markers' for het albino. You simply can't tell them apart from normals.

    Now, don't confuse 'het' with 'single copy of a recessive gene', because a lesser platinum is a heterozygous animal. Heterozygous simply means it carries one copy of a mutant gene, instead of 2 copies.

    So, a het red axanthic is Heterozygous for red axanthic. It could have been called a 'strawberry ball', or whatever, but alas, the discoverer opted for a less creative name.
    Red Axanthic is not a recessive gene, it's incomplete dominant--just like Lesser Platinum/BEL. Lesser Platinum could have been called 'Het Blue-Eyed Leucistic', if that had been what Ralph Davis wanted, and it would be just as accurate as 'Het Red Axanthic'.
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    Re: Het Red?

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    Technically, if the animal shows outward signs of carrying a gene, then it is NOT a recessive gene...it would just be a subtle incomplete dominant gene.

    If it's truly a recessive gene, the animal will not be distinguishable from a normal. Albino is an example of a recessive gene. There are no 'markers' for het albino. You simply can't tell them apart from normals.
    You keep believing that

    I think to be more accurate you should have typed you yourself simply cannot tell them apart, but that doesn't mean others can't
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    Re: Het Red?

    I'd say its a wanna be het red. Only time and breeding will tell. I'd say a nice looking normal.

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    Wink

    That is not a Het Red Axanthic, just a nice looking black back.

    Here are some photos of some het Red Axanthics.

    Large Female Het Red Axanthic (on eggs)















    Some Baby Pics.

    Het Red Axanthic on the left



    Het Red Axanthic (Left), Red Axanthic Genetic Stripe (Right)



    More pictures can be seen on my birthing record Corey Woods Reptile 2012 Birthing Record

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    Re: Het Red?

    Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    You keep believing that

    I think to be more accurate you should have typed you yourself simply cannot tell them apart, but that doesn't mean others can't
    Name one marker for het albino.
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    Here is our Het Red
    His blushing's are my favorite part!
    Any ideas what to pair him to?







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    Some recessive traits do have markers, like pieds. Thereīs none for albino, not that i know...
    I also agree that the name is confusing even when is accurate, itīs been used since ever the name het, for carriers of some recessive gene.

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