Het Red?

[4Ballz]

mine...

[satomi325]

To me the op photo is either a very poor example of het red or a nice regular black back.

All the het reds I've seen in person look almost identical to blushed back cinnys. Alien heads included.

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[snakesRkewl]

Hets are not morphs they carry (maybe) the genetic code for a morph but in them selves they are normal looking.

If a het is a het is "does" carry the genetic code in them...not might.
Visual hets, pastels, etc... are most certainly morphs as are recessive trait het's imo.

I have yet to produce a het clown that looked like a normal, why do people keep claiming that recessive traits look like normals.
"Maybe" some recessive traits do look normal, but most do not...

satomi325
To me the op photo is either a very poor example of het red or a nice regular black back.

I agree

[kitedemon]

What is the other allele for pastel? There is a super form but no other form I know of. Is a super considered a different trait? I thought it was just an expression of the same trait, one of two dominate traits give a pastel and a super from both parents to my understanding is not a heterozygous just a regular dom.

Am I not remembering my genetics class correctly? (it was 26 years ago)

I thought that a heterozygous was an individual containing two different alleles for a given trait or having dissimilar alleles that code the same gene/trait. I can't remember exactly now I didn't believe a pastel could be referred to as a het. A regular pastel has only one allele for pastel and one normal or so I thought.??

[snakesRkewl]

A regular pastel has only one allele for pastel and one normal or so I thought.??

Correct, and a het clown has one copy of the clown gene and one of a norm, making it no different genetically than a pastel, both are heterozygous traits, one "supposedly" hidden, the other obviously visual.
The het gene almost always influences the look of the normal, making them not look completely normal.
It's even more obvious when you make morph hets, not always, but most of the time.

[Rat160]

Thanks for the responses guys, I am going to pass on the het red. And I am familiar with Corey Woods, He is the one that proved it out. The het red was created from breeding to brown backs together. The super form being the red ax. Still confused why they call a visual morph a "het" that should be changed.

[RobNJ]

Still confused why they call a visual morph a "het" that should be changed.

Because that's exactly what it is...the heterozygous form of the red axanthic is the het red axanthic. Same applies to mojave(het) to super mojave(homo), het albino to albino.

[Rat160]

Because that's exactly what it is...the heterozygous form of the red axanthic is the het red axanthic. Same applies to mojave(het) to super mojave(homo), het albino to albino.

Yes but the mojave isnt called het BEL. Just saying they could have came up with a better name. Het to me and I think most in this industry refers to a recessive snake. Its just misleading thats all im saying.

[LadyOhh]

Looks like one to me from that picture, but you need a full body shot for 100% verification.

[satomi325]

Yes but the mojave isnt called het BEL. Just saying they could have came up with a better name. Het to me and I think most in this industry refers to a recessive snake. Its just misleading thats all im saying.

Some people call Yellowbellies, het Ivory.

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