[Price Check] Lesser Bee

[Vasiliki]

I got this proven male for $700 if that helps


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Why can't you live in Canada? Love his coloration.

For Bees, I would definitely want to examine the animal or have multiple pictures, since they can change so much over their lifetime. Some photographs don't do justice for how they're going to end up.

Hopefully you got some pictures of this guy before you purchased him! Anything with Spider I'd want to see plenty of photos of

[Royal Hijinx]

$750 is pretty much right dead on for average price. If its a nice one id buy it. I wish all of them stay the color they are as babies. I hate how the spider gene browns everything out.

I am not sure I would blame the Spider gene for browning out. Lessers are brown anyway, and in the case of most other Bees the Pastel is directly to blame.

[J.Vandegrift]

If someone can't send you a pic I would walk away. You can buy a cheap digital camera for $20 or even less. Not having a camera is a pretty poor excuse when you are trying to get $750 for a snake.

[Mike41793]

I am not sure I would blame the Spider gene for browning out. Lessers are brown anyway, and in the case of most other Bees the Pastel is directly to blame.

Really? I was under the impression is was the other way around. And spiders are just as brown as lessers. Unles you have a high white spider. So youre saying if your fire spider browns out the spider isnt to blame? Its the fire genes fault lol?

[WingedWolfPsion]

My spider's not brown, he's gold. I consider brown spiders to be lower quality. You have to look at both parents--and THEIR parents--to identify the culprit when you get a browned out bee.

[sho220]

Really? I was under the impression is was the other way around. And spiders are just as brown as lessers. Unles you have a high white spider. So youre saying if your fire spider browns out the spider isnt to blame? Its the fire genes fault lol?

Spider will affect pattern more than color. Lessers tend to lighten crosses...and Pastels will "brown out" as well as add additional color (yellow)...depending on what the cross is...just my two cents...

[Royal Hijinx]

Really? I was under the impression is was the other way around. And spiders are just as brown as lessers. Unles you have a high white spider. So youre saying if your fire spider browns out the spider isnt to blame? Its the fire genes fault lol?

I think you are confusing gold and brown. My Spinner het Albino is very low white but he is super gold. As far as I know Fire Spiders stay pretty bright. As was said above, Spider seems to be more a pattern morph, but variations in base color do exist.

Comparison pic I found:




My Spinner at >600g:



I agree with above that a nice Spider should be more gold than brown. And I believe they are that way from hatchlings without too much change in to adult hood. That is why you can find a Bee that does not brown out; a quality base Spider for initial brightness to a Pastel that can hold its color. Same for the Lesser Bee, not all Lessers are created equal. I am not saying the Spider does not play a role in the overall quality, but I do not think it plays much, if any role, in color change as the animal ages. I would like to see before and after pics of a Lesser Bee that browned out. I would think that a dark adult was likely somewhat dark as a hatchling.

[MorphMaster]

Yeah I have a very interesting spider. The sides are like a goldfish green color and the dorsal is like a neon green. Idk, but I haven't noticed much like that yet