Bad R.I. I'm in need of help

[Fangmereptiles]

The reason I was saying It couldnt be viral is because these snake are the only ones that were infected for that reason I doubt it is a virus. plus wouldn't that have hown on blood work?

[Skiploder]

The reason I was saying It couldnt be viral is because these snake are the only ones that were infected for that reason I doubt it is a virus. plus wouldn't that have hown on blood work?

Depends. What blood work did he perform?

Viruses require targeted tests. Did your vet suspect a virus and test for one?

Secondly, some animals can be infected but may be asymptomatic.

If you had faith in the course your vet was taking, you would not be posting here - correct? Entertain the idea that a duck walks, quacks and craps like a duck.

A bacteria infection, once cultured as sensitive to an antibiotic, goes away with proper treatment. For it to have overcome not one, but three antibiotics it is susceptible to is very improbable.

So your duck is not a duck. Either the culture was improperly taken or this is not a bacterial infection, or this is the most unique and amazing of all ducks.

Now you can continue to make excuses for your vet, or you can ask him some hard questions - after all, I'm sure he is not doing this for free - right?

1) Ask to see the result of the tracheal flush? The susceptibility and bacteria type should be on that report.
2) Ask him what virus(es) he suspected and what tests he ran to rule them out. Make him show you the results of the blood work, including his orders to the diagnostic lab.

If he balks or gets defensive - find another vet.

[Fangmereptiles]

check out the link below. a lot of exotic vets will consult with this vet. Mine does. hope this helps you a little. don

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/reptile...ile-veterinary

Depends. What blood work did he perform?

Viruses require targeted tests. Did your vet suspect a virus and test for one?

Secondly, some animals can be infected but may be asymptomatic.

If you had faith in the course your vet was taking, you would not be posting here - correct? Entertain the idea that a duck walks, quacks and craps like a duck.

A bacteria infection, once cultured as sensitive to an antibiotic, goes away with proper treatment. For it to have overcome not one, but three antibiotics it is susceptible to is very improbable.

So your duck is not a duck. Either the culture was improperly taken or this is not a bacterial infection, or this is the most unique and amazing of all ducks.

Now you can continue to make excuses for your vet, or you can ask him some hard questions - after all, I'm sure he is not doing this for free - right?

1) Ask to see the result of the tracheal flush? The susceptibility and bacteria type should be on that report.
2) Ask him what virus(es) he suspected and what tests he ran to rule them out. Make him show you the results of the blood work, including his orders to the diagnostic lab.

If he balks or gets defensive - find another vet.

Trust me I'm not making excuses and i keep asking him if theres a possibilty hes not catching something but he has done everything he can 3 different cultures after each antibiotic course. the baytril and trimethel sulfate he only ran for two weeks each the gentimycin for a full month and after the first antibiotic didn't fix it he hasn't charged me for anything and every time it's showing the same bacteria. I came here asking for advice seeing if anyone had a similar situation and I do appreciate your input. I'm afraid it may be the water here which is why I have stopped giving them water from my house and am now buying jugs of water every day

[don15681]

ok, I gave you that link to listen to. I'm not saying you or your vet is doing something wrong. I'm not saying that you think i'm saying that either. lets try and figure out something to try. when dr stahl talks on that link. he states that

some cultures are done wrong.
meds are not giving long enough, but you should still see improvement
sometimes using more than one med at the same time is needed.

I figure if you listen to this, something might pop up on something miss or something you might want to try.
he's strickly exotics, and is well known. he gets reptiles shipped to him for treatment. my point is he seen a lot, and after trying everything you have, calling him might be your best option.

[Skiploder]

Trust me I'm not making excuses and i keep asking him if theres a possibilty hes not catching something but he has done everything he can 3 different cultures after each antibiotic course. the baytril and trimethel sulfate he only ran for two weeks each the gentimycin for a full month and after the first antibiotic didn't fix it he hasn't charged me for anything and every time it's showing the same bacteria. I came here asking for advice seeing if anyone had a similar situation and I do appreciate your input. I'm afraid it may be the water here which is why I have stopped giving them water from my house and am now buying jugs of water every day

What bacteria is it showing?

[Fangmereptiles]

ok, I gave you that link to listen to. I'm not saying you or your vet is doing something wrong. I'm not saying that you think i'm saying that either. lets try and figure out something to try. when dr stahl talks on that link. he states that

some cultures are done wrong.
meds are not giving long enough, but you should still see improvement
sometimes using more than one med at the same time is needed.

I figure if you listen to this, something might pop up on something miss or something you might want to try.
he's strickly exotics, and is well known. he gets reptiles shipped to him for treatment. my point is he seen a lot, and after trying everything you have, calling him might be your best option.

I listened to the link this morning it is very helpful and it has some things I am going to reccomend to my vet when I talk to him when he gets back from vacation on the 5th I think that the cultures were prematurely diagnosed if anything but thank you for that link it was awesome listening

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I don't remember exactly what kind but it is a pseudomonas bacteria