How I convert feeder types

[Royal Hijinx]

I feed a appropriate sized rodent to the ones that are <700g or so every 4-5 days and every 7-8 days for the bigger ones.

My understanding is that power feeding would be putting a second rodent in the snake's mouth as it finishes the first, feeding oversized rodents or letting it eat in too close of intervals.

[Mike41793]

Power feeding is when your snake is finishing one rodent then you sitck another its its mouth so it just keeps eating and ends up eating 2 meals (rodents). Over feeding is when you feed something crazy like 2 rats 3 times a week or something like that, simply bc your snake will eat all of it and you wanna get them up to weight faster. I would NOT reccomend either of these methods except for extreme rare cases where it could be seen as understandable.
(these definitions are how i understood it, though i could be wrong.)

What jinx does by restarting over after a month of refusals is not even close to powerfeeding. Even if he restarted his process 1 week after a refusal i would still not consider it powerfeeding. Doing whatever it takes to get your snake to eat once a week isnt a bad thing at all imo, especially since theres sooo many things that a bp can use as an excuse to refuse a meal lol. If my snakes only ate while Rihanna was playing in the background, you can bet your a$$ i would be jamming out to her every feeding day.

[Royal Hijinx]

What jinx does by restarting over after a month of refusals is not even close to powerfeeding. Even if he restarted his process 1 week after a refusal i would still not consider it powerfeeding. Doing whatever it takes to get your snake to eat once a week isnt a bad thing at all imo, especially since theres sooo many things that a bp can use as an excuse to refuse a meal lol. If my snakes only ate while Rihanna was playing in the background, you can bet your a$$ i would be jamming out to her every feeding day.

This is my point. Thanks!

Either way, this has gotten a bit off topic. The issue here was to address switching prey items.

[ballpythonluvr]

Thanks for this informative post. My male normal used to take f/t rats. Now I have all the information I need to make this a possibility once again. Very good post Jinx!

[vangarret2000]

If that is some kind of slight towards how I feed my animals, then you can come out and say it. I do not think that offering another food type after a month is any kind of problem. It is by no means force feeding or power feeding. It is making a food source available for the snake to take or not. Pet or not has nothing to do with it. So this idea of the snake eating "more than the snake even want to" is a non-argument. The snake takes the food of its own accord. As I said, if it then refuses, we wait it out just like any other fast. I do not appreciate any insinuation that I am power feeding my animals to get them to size.

Where in the post did I say you were powerfeeding? You don't need to get so upset. I said the rest of your post was great but becuase I disagree with one part you have to get all defensive and try to make it seem like I am attacking you? I am sorry if I upset you that much but I won't agree with you just becaus you are trying to make it seem like I am wanting to insult you when that was not my intentions. All I did was make a statement. Sometimes people do try I get their snakes to keep eatting even when the snakes don't want to, for breeding purposes and such. It's understandable when you want them to gain weight to breed. Where in there did I say that you are now trying to powerfeed your snake? Where in there did I even say that is what you are doing? Would you prefer me to a period in between understandable and sometimes so you will get that it is just a broad statement and not a slight in you? I can edit it if you want me too. Sorry for getting you so worked up. It was not my intentions.

[Royal Hijinx]

I am not worked up at all, just clarifying my stance. But when you posted twice to make the point about feeding the animal when it does not want to eat or jumping the gun, that merits a response. Power feeding is the term generally used to denote inappropriate feeding, so that is the term I have used. I also wanted to make a broader point concerning feeding practices, but that really should be its own thread.

Anyway, we can agree to disagree on the point of what is jumping the gun.

[vangarret2000]

I am not worked up at all, just clarifying my stance. But when you posted twice to make the point about feeding the animal when it does not want to eat or jumping the gun, that merits a response. Power feeding is the term generally used to denote inappropriate feeding, so that is the term I have used. I also wanted to make a broader point concerning feeding practices, but that really should be its own thread.

Anyway, we can agree to disagree on the point of what is jumping the gun.

I made the statement and that merited a response. Which you did and that gave me the merit to agree or disagree which I did and I stated it again showing I disagree. Then you responded again. I didn't just state it twice before you responded like you just said.

I don't understand why you think a response of saying I was insinuating you power feed is merited when I didn't do that?

I find the term power feeding is used to denote excessive feeding not just any inappropriate feeding. So I am sorry or misreading you.

I like to agree to disagree too. And again I think everything else you put was great in your initial post.

[Slim]

I made the statement and that merited a response. Which you did and that gave me the merit to agree or disagree which I did and I stated it again showing I disagree. Then you responded again. I didn't just state it twice before you responded like you just said.

I don't understand why you think a response of saying I was insinuating you power feed is merited when I didn't do that?

I find the term power feeding is used to denote excessive feeding not just any inappropriate feeding. So I am sorry or misreading you.

I like to agree to disagree too. And again I think everything else you put was great in your initial post.

I agree this is starting to make my cranium hurt!

[vangarret2000]

I agree this is starting to make my cranium hurt!

Agreed

[AdamF]

This is good to read. In my case, I have a male that was a die hard FT guy, then during last breeding season, he refused and went to live. Even on live he is finicky eater, at best once every 2-3 months. In his case, I start him with a live mouse to "get him in the mood". Once he gets near the back of the mouse's body, i gently take a medium FT rat, and have it follow the nearly consumed mouse. It works very well.

Conversely, have a female who use to eat ONLY live, and now she eat the FT no problem, but it took some time to convert her.

I suspect the male will come around, if i ever let him get VERY hungry.

Anyway, now I can gamble on 2 new ones who are so far only live eaters