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    They call me Emilius LOL Emilio's Avatar
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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Super Lesser's/Super Butter's are not all bugged eyed, last I saw a bigger breeder said about 50% of them have normal eye's.

    I produced my first one in November and she is perfect in every way.
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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Emilio View Post
    Super Lesser's/Super Butter's are not all bugged eyed, last I saw a bigger breeder said about 50% of them have normal eye's.

    I produced my first one in November and she is perfect in every way.
    Most of the list is sometimes happens, I've actually never seen a bugged eye one in person, quite a few pictures though.

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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Can we vote any way to have this stickied so you don't need to search for it.
    1.0 Bumblebee (Sheldon)
    1.0 Enchi (Jaxon)
    1.0 Phantom (Leonard)
    1.1 Pastel Het Genetic Stripe(Clyde+Bonnie)
    0.1 LemonBlast (Dottie)
    0.1 Cinnamon (Cindy)
    0.1 Pied (Pissy)
    0.1 Phantom (Priya)
    0.1 Butter (Bernadette)
    0.1 Lesser (Penny)
    0.1 Pastel (Ivy)
    0.1 Normal (Amy)
    1.0 Boxer (Rocky)
    1.0 Sugarglider (Oreo)

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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by BPLuvr View Post
    Can we vote any way to have this stickied so you don't need to search for it.
    If they do that, have a mod replace the first list with the updated list, so it's up top.

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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    never herd of that one, or noticed it. Anyone got any input?

    There is a persistent rumor that albino x albino pairings should be avoided due to a higher risk of deformity.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...lbino-breeding

    I seem to recall there is also at least one post on RDR's breeding record that documents some deformed babies from an albino x albino pairing.

    I think I already said way more than anyone wanted to hear on the subject in the other thread, so I'll leave it at that

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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana View Post
    There is a persistent rumor that albino x albino pairings should be avoided due to a higher risk of deformity.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...lbino-breeding

    I seem to recall there is also at least one post on RDR's breeding record that documents some deformed babies from an albino x albino pairing.

    I think I already said way more than anyone wanted to hear on the subject in the other thread, so I'll leave it at that
    Didn't even remember that thread and apparently I posted in it lol. I still agree with you though.

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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    If they do that, have a mod replace the first list with the updated list, so it's up top.
    is it your intent to include genetically...er, confusing traits as well (not just crosses that often lead to physical deformation)? examples like the toffee being compatible with regular albinos is a morph issue, but only from an investment/phenotype standpoint. I appreciate this sort of quick compendium of known issues, so I'd hate to deviate from what you've compiled, but there is a host of 'morph issues' that don't involve wobbles, viability, or deformities. somehow there seems to be an even greater controversy surrounding those issues than ones that could potentially affect the health of any given clutch, but there you have it.

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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by wwmjkd View Post
    is it your intent to include genetically...er, confusing traits as well (not just crosses that often lead to physical deformation)? examples like the toffee being compatible with regular albinos is a morph issue, but only from an investment/phenotype standpoint. I appreciate this sort of quick compendium of known issues, so I'd hate to deviate from what you've compiled, but there is a host of 'morph issues' that don't involve wobbles, viability, or deformities. somehow there seems to be an even greater controversy surrounding those issues than ones that could potentially affect the health of any given clutch, but there you have it.
    it is a list of things that are different besides the skin color. I don't see the need to discuss investment issues, since they are temporary. It's about the market more so than the morph.

    Albino and toffee sit on the same locus, It's no more of an issue than mojave and lesser or spector and yellow belly. If that's what you were referring to, i have them complied here already http://www.owalreptiles.com/complexes.php

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