Ball python "mills" *rant* (Not trying to offend anyone)

[Domepiece]

The motivation to breed should be out of a love for these animals and their extraordinary potential to create beautiful animals. I dont see alot of what you are talking about as far as "mill" type of behavior as you see it. Im sure their are many people that do this for the wrong reasons but I dont think its common practice among people who actually appreciate these animals (although I'm sure there are plenty of people who just see $ signs). Also in the wild these animals as well as almost every other species on the planet breed annually so I dont see an issue with that as long as they are recovered and healthy to do so. Wonderful topic but Im hoping it only applies to a rare few individuals.

[wilomn]

The motivation to breed should be out of a love for these animals and their extraordinary potential to create beautiful animals.

Nonsense.

That may be all well and good for yo, but don't you think it rather narrow minded of you to force your point of view on everyone else?

Personally, I don't love my snakes. I don't think I ever have. I like em and I'm quite fond of a few, but love isn't even close.

From what you, and some others have said, perhaps not meaning to, I'm doing this for all the wrong reasons. Frankly I laugh out loud at your arrogance.

So many forget, when they get up on that soap box, that what they're espousing is an OPINION. Opinions are points of view. Points of view are a way of seeing something. A way of seeing something is generally not found existing alone. There is almost always more than one, often many more than one, way of seeing the same information and arriving at differing conclusions with none being more valid or valuable, nor enforceable for that matter, than any other.

If someone wants to breed ten thousand normals a year, so long as the animals are properly kept, what business is it of anyone else's?

I kinda get tired of folks who think they're 'better than' simply because of a point of view, an opinion, of no more inherent validity than ANY OTHER opinion out there.

[Domepiece]

Nonsense.

That may be all well and good for yo, but don't you think it rather narrow minded of you to force your point of view on everyone else?

Personally, I don't love my snakes. I don't think I ever have. I like em and I'm quite fond of a few, but love isn't even close.

From what you, and some others have said, perhaps not meaning to, I'm doing this for all the wrong reasons. Frankly I laugh out loud at your arrogance.

So many forget, when they get up on that soap box, that what they're espousing is an OPINION. Opinions are points of view. Points of view are a way of seeing something. A way of seeing something is generally not found existing alone. There is almost always more than one, often many more than one, way of seeing the same information and arriving at differing conclusions with none being more valid or valuable, nor enforceable for that matter, than any other.

If someone wants to breed ten thousand normals a year, so long as the animals are properly kept, what business is it of anyone else's?

I kinda get tired of folks who think they're 'better than' simply because of a point of view, an opinion, of no more inherent validity than ANY OTHER opinion out there.

Gee, Im sorry, did I offend you? Let me rephrase that so you can understand. In order for someone to do something well and enjoy doing it, maybe first they should have a passion(love) for it. IDK, just makes sense to me. Dont lecture me cupcake, I know what your talking about. Narrow minded, yeah, Im the one.LOL.

[wilomn]

Gee, Im sorry, did I offend you? Let me rephrase that so you can understand. In order for someone to do something well and enjoy doing it, maybe first they should have a passion(love) for it. IDK, just makes sense to me. Dont lecture me cupcake, I know what your talking about. Narrow minded, yeah, Im the one.LOL.

Well 'darlin' if you know what I'm talking about, about which I have serious doubts, then you know doubt know what I have to say to your well placed quip.

Once you get your head out maybe you should do a panty check. I think yours may be wadding up.

[Domepiece]

Well 'darlin' if you know what I'm talking about, about which I have serious doubts, then you know doubt know what I have to say to your well placed quip.

Once you get your head out maybe you should do a panty check. I think yours may be wadding up.

Lol. Yes there are different paradigms in which people hold. Everyone is entitle to their own opinions. I think that your interpretation of my original post is a little skewed, if you go back and re-read it, maybe with some assistance, you can see that I was not forcing my opinions on anyone. However it is a fact that people who love and know what they are doing do better at the things they do than others. What is right and what is wrong is open to interpretation. Also, I dont believe that the desire for profit in this industry is wrong as long as the snakes are cared for properly, if thats whats getting "your" panties in a bunch. Take care Susan.

[dart]

Lol. Yes there are different paradigms in which people hold. Everyone is entitle to their own opinions. I think that your interpretation of my original post is a little skewed, if you go back and re-read it, maybe with some assistance, you can see that I was not forcing my opinions on anyone. However it is a fact that people who love and know what they are doing do better at the things they do than people who do it for less motivating reasons. What is right and what is wrong is open to interpretation. Also, I dont believe that the desire for profit in this industry is wrong, if thats whats getting "your" panties in a bunch. Take care Susan.

Actually, you are. You are telling someone what their motivation "should" be to breed. By telling someone what should or shouldn't be their reasoning for their actions, you are forcing your opinions onto them.

[Domepiece]

Actually, you are. You are telling someone what their motivation "should" be to breed. By telling someone what should or shouldn't be their reasoning for their actions, you are forcing your opinions onto them.

not really, people have many motivations for many things, all I said was that people who have strong motivators and a passion for what they do are generally better at what they do than people without those factors. You cant force opinions on people either, I can give mine, they can either accept them or disregard them. Also my original post is being misinterpreted completely. Stop focusing so much on the first sentence of that post, that is just my opinion (and I can have it, doesnt mean Im looking down on others with different ones), and read the last half.