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    Re: Question ?? help!

    Like i said before IAM DONE replying ! ONE person has been nice enough to actually Help me . Get off Your high horses!

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    Re: Question ?? help!

    Quote Originally Posted by jess View Post
    Like i said before IAM DONE replying ! ONE person has been nice enough to actually Help me . Get off Your high horses!
    That was actually Rude of me.. Alot of people Have been Nice Enough to help me on this Thread.. I do listen to ALL advice. but once people start Being Rude and demanding Im Done..

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    Wow. I think everyone was just trying to answer the original question. And husbandry and an uncontrolled heat pad would certainly make a snake snappy, and perhaps not eat. A tub would be a cheap temporary home if you don't want him in there forever. I just can't picture what kind of set up you have. What kind of bottom does it have?

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    You are using an old slate bottom tank? A safer alternative maybe to place a ceramic tile over the uth. (not for plastic tubs) I would strongly encourage a thermostat and swapping the mat you have for a Kane mat they are safer as they are 100% waterproof and designed for interior use.


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    Re: Question ?? help!

    Quote Originally Posted by jess View Post
    I have a thermostat/humidistat.
    Do you really have a humidistat or do you have a thermometer/hygrometer? Do you have a device that regulates how hot the heating pad gets. If you don't you are risking your snake getting burned. I understand why you feel like you are getting ganged up on. Keep in mind that everyone here loves or has loved a snake just like you love yours. We all want to help. No one is judging you for having bad husbandry. The judging starts when you refuse to admit you have a problem. I read the whole thread and you have husbandry problems. Get them fixed as soon as you can and don't feel bad. You lived and learned. Unless you have one of the very few heating pads that are designed to go in an enclosure and you have that heating pad on a thermostat or at least a rheostat you have a problem.
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    Re: Question ?? help!

    Quote Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    You are using an old slate bottom tank? A safer alternative maybe to place a ceramic tile over the uth. (not for plastic tubs) I would strongly encourage a thermostat and swapping the mat you have for a Kane mat they are safer as they are 100% waterproof and designed for interior use.


    http://www.bigappleherp.com/Kane-Heat-Mats_2
    I actually never heard of Kane mats until not. and its not a Slate bottom. i would think that would get way to cold for a snake?... What we have him in is an old Showcase i guess thats what it would be called ( wood and glass ) the bottom is wood, But it is covered in something and i can't think of the name of it, but hes not directly on wood its self. this would be so much easier if i could take pictures! . I know its probably To big for him but he loves to roam around at night and he seems to love it in there.
    Thanks for the Website i will for sure check that out right now

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    Re: Question ?? help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Egapal View Post
    Do you really have a humidistat or do you have a thermometer/hygrometer? Do you have a device that regulates how hot the heating pad gets. If you don't you are risking your snake getting burned. I understand why you feel like you are getting ganged up on. Keep in mind that everyone here loves or has loved a snake just like you love yours. We all want to help. No one is judging you for having bad husbandry. The judging starts when you refuse to admit you have a problem. I read the whole thread and you have husbandry problems. Get them fixed as soon as you can and don't feel bad. You lived and learned. Unless you have one of the very few heating pads that are designed to go in an enclosure and you have that heating pad on a thermostat or at least a rheostat you have a problem.
    the heating pad i have is a Intellitemp Mat? i think thats what its called that is Designed to go inside the tank.. And the Heat is on Low.. i can turn the temp up or down if needed..

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    Jess, I understand it is hard to read some of these posts and keep a positive attitude. Please just understand that any seemingly rude comments were only posted because these people truly care about the well being of your snake.

    It seems to me like you won't be doing anything in the immediate future to improve your husbandry. No one here can control your actions. All we can do is give you our best suggestions. Whatever you do, I hope you decide to make the best decision for your pet.

    You came here asking about your snakes aggressive behavior. The first thing experienced snake keepers think to change when it concerns aggressive behavior involves feeding frequency and environment. It sounds too me like your snake could be stressed out from its environment. I am not completely convinced this has EVERYTHING to do with your heat source as much as it has to do with providing a comfortable and tight fitting hides and "cage clutter" (fake plants, or crumpled paper to provide cover while the snake is roaming around) in conjunction with a proper temperature gradient.

    Also, an overly large enclosure could cause stress. It may seem strange, but ball pythons actually prefer tight cramped spaces as it makes them feel safer and more secure. Excessive "roaming" or testing the enclosure for a means of escape can be a sign of stress. You can tell if your snake is stressed if it is striking/biting, or not eating regularly.

    We are just here to help you give your snake the best possible care. If you want to take our advice, we are more than happy to provide it. If not, then I guess there isn't much that we can help you with.
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    Jess,
    I have not used or encountered the Intellitemp mats. It looks very similar to the kane pads.

    Exactly what are your temps?

    The lower wattage mats like what you are using produce dramatically lower temps than the run of the mill ones. I would still be very concerned with water (or not water wetness.... )

    Roaming is hard guage, roaming can be healthy exploration or stress. The pace is a good tell a calm slow motion is a good thing a frantic poking about constantly is not. Stress can lead to aggression. Stress from low security or incorrect temps (hi/low) are all common issues. Check your temps carefully 89º-92º warm spot 78-80º cool and ambient 78-85º air temps.

    Ball pythons are in the wild preyed on by bird and have an instinctual fear of thing over the head sometimes adding lots of 'air' cover helps calm a stressed animal. I use fake plants and build lots of cover over head and between the hides.

    This is if it is stress. It may not be it could be hunger and just bad judgement on your partners part. They feed in pure instinct mode and often will strike if hungry and you smell even slightly of food. A left unwashed tool in the same room anything of this sort can start. You are feeding once every two weeks? Do you feed 10% by weight? I feed my adults 5-7% by weigh per week. My sub adults I feed 10% per week.

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    Re: Question ?? help!

    Quote Originally Posted by mackynz View Post
    I'll watch for your post on the Rainbow Bridge.
    Was this really necessary?

    Seems not to long ago, you were a newbie around here.

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