The most hopeless escape case *ever*

[Salamander Rising]

I've heard of people with BP's that can climb door frames. It's easy to underestimate them. Don't for a second think that you'll have to find them down load.

Quite the opposite actually, a lot of times they can get up easier than they can get down. Their only way down tends to be falling, in which case you'll probably hear him.

Ooooh boy.

That puts a whole new spin on things.



The good news in your post is, that if my worst fears are true and he's fallen down into the wall somewhere, he could conceivably get back up again.

[Salamander Rising]

As everyone has said, do not give up on finding that snake. My male normal escaped from a tank twice. He was able to find out how to push up on the lid and get out. He did this twice! I finally put him a in a secure tub and have not had any escapes so far. I guess he was trying to tell me that he really didn't like being in a tank. Both times he escaped I found him in my base board heating in my bathroom, and at the exact same spot the second time too! These snakes are very crafty at escaping. You will find him, just hang in there!

This may sound crazy [and you will pardon me because I *am* losing my mind, here] but I called a pet psychic/remote viewer guy and hie said Alice is just fine, inside furniture somewhere *not* 'very warm', he's not hungry [great..tapewormy wild mice] and is very very happy where he is.

[that little revelation infuriated me...I'm dying here and he's livin' large]

He told me not to bother ripping the furniture apart [which I did, anyway] because he's only going to come out when he's good and ready.

He also told me to not seal up the holes I've found because he's using them to come and go as he pleases.

He said the mouse offerings were pointless as Alice was not needing fed and that it would be 'weeks' until he decides to show up.

I was very skeptical until, in mid-sentence about the snake, he suddenly asked who the 'brown haired man near me' was [hubby] and then asked what was 'going on with his business".

[nothing great, actually...the economy has crushed it]

I mentioned neither thing to him.
Totally talked only about the snake.

[?!?]

Then he told me some sort of scary but good news about that.

When you call these people, you get *one* topic or you're charged extra.
I specifically stuck to the snake issue.
He brought up hubby and also told me about my 'way with animals' which was weird, because if that were actually working right now, why would I be calling him?

I'm not sure how much it was worth beyond the cost of the call, but I feel more optimistic, now.

And it does jive with Alice's recent, increasing annoyance with his lack of 'leg room'.

[because a 40 gallon breeder tank isn't enough for "The Midnight Slider", apparently]

[angllady2]

One question.

If he's using the holes to come and go as he pleases, why haven't you seen tracks in the flour yet? I doubt your Alice has learned to levitate.

I can understand being desperate, but I'd take anything that guy said with a grain of salt. Actually, with the whole salt shaker. I could have done just about as good a job at predicting as he did.

Your a woman, and obviously not a child i.e. chances are you are married or involved.

Dark hair? Ummm, there are only so many shades of hair color, blonde, grey, black and brown. So, better than a 50% chance dark would be correct.

Going on with business ? Umm the sucky economy has done a number on pretty much everybody's business.

Way with animals ? Umm darlin you are a girl who likes snakes, if anyone has a way with animals it's a wierdo like you. Just sayin.

Inside furniture. So, pretty much in any room of your house. That's not hard to figure out.

Not hungry. Well, it's a well known fact pythons can go years without eating, so again, not hard to get.

Not warm. Ok, well since his tank is the warmest spot in the house, duh.

He'll come out when he's ready. Pretty much the same thing we have all said.

It will be weeks before he comes out. Well yeah, we all said the same thing.

Bottom line hon, I know you need reassurance, but someone like that is not the place to seek it. A lot of us can relate, we've been there. We can tell you our experiences, and do our best to help you out. We will be happy to listen when you want to talk. Give you a figurative shoulder to cry on. Tell you what you need to hear. That is what we do.

Gale

[dragonsong93]

I don't think it's that hopeless! I live in a house that sounds eerily like the one you have, ancient and full hiding places and even random holes in the bottoms of the walls. The basement is pretty much a cave and the attic is, well, what you'd expect in a house that is nearly civil-war era.

I had my bp Spot escape once for a little over two weeks, I found him three rooms over in the bottom shelf of a closet with a conspicuously large lump in his belly but NONE of the tactics I tried worked, not the flour or scenting the room, he just appeared when he was ready I was so afraid he'd get inside a wall or under the floor and I'd NEVER find him!

Also I don't know if it's been suggested yet, but what if you laid plastic bags everywhere or in possible locations? Then when he moves it would rustle them and you'd pretty much hear it across the house.

[Salamander Rising]

I don't think it's that hopeless! I live in a house that sounds eerily like the one you have, ancient and full hiding places and even random holes in the bottoms of the walls. The basement is pretty much a cave and the attic is, well, what you'd expect in a house that is nearly civil-war era.

I had my bp Spot escape once for a little over two weeks, I found him three rooms over in the bottom shelf of a closet with a conspicuously large lump in his belly but NONE of the tactics I tried worked, not the flour or scenting the room, he just appeared when he was ready I was so afraid he'd get inside a wall or under the floor and I'd NEVER find him!

Also I don't know if it's been suggested yet, but what if you laid plastic bags everywhere or in possible locations? Then when he moves it would rustle them and you'd pretty much hear it across the house.

I'm totally deaf in one ear and have only about 60% hearing in the other.
I'd only hear him going over plastic bags if they had firecrackers in them and possibly not even then because there are 11 rooms here and the walls between them are 12" thick cedar logs.

The logs are so sound absorbing that I can't hear somebody blowing a car horn right outside so hearing a snake rustling plastic bags is probably not gonna happen.

The holes are situated in such a way that I can't even get any flour back where they are.
[I can see them by smooshing my cheek against against the wall and looking back along the logs to where they are but cannot reach them, even with a stick]

I've nearly killed myself dragging furniture around and hunting through endless boxes, bags, clothes and every accessible crack and cranny in this place.

I have no desire to wind up in the hospital so I can only wait to see if he shows up on his own, now.

He has lots of 'food' running through the walls and apparently all the roaming room he really desired so unless a wood rat grabs him I'm sure he'll be perfectly happy on his slitherabout...well, until the bitter winter cold comes, anyway.

I suppose it's my fault for assuming he had something like a reciprocal emotional connection/affection for me.

He doesn't.

He's a snake and is happy running loose.

Only I am suffering.

[mackynz]

I don't know about prices or practicality, but if they make cheap motion sensing lights you could try putting them up inside. That way at night when your BP is active and a light suddenly turns on you will know.

Again, I have no idea how expensive these things are, and even to myself the idea seems a little dumb but if you're desperate...


Edit: http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CNYBEPMCMAA
They make some pretty cheap ones I guess.

[Jeo123]

As an alternative to the flour trick, I'd imagine paper clips would work really well. lay a bunch of them completely flat and check to see if they get moved. Best part is, for clean up, you just need a magnet.

It's also go the advantage of being reusable in other rooms if you rule one room out.

[Salamander Rising]

I don't know about prices or practicality, but if they make cheap motion sensing lights you could try putting them up inside. That way at night when your BP is active and a light suddenly turns on you will know.

Again, I have no idea how expensive these things are, and even to myself the idea seems a little dumb but if you're desperate...


Edit: http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CNYBEPMCMAA
They make some pretty cheap ones I guess.

Those would pretty cool to have regardless of the snake.

It would be nice to not knock myself silly every time I walk into a dark room.

[this psycho place doesn't even wall switches in most of the rooms...gotta feel my way to wherever the lamps are to turn them on]

[Salamander Rising]

As an alternative to the flour trick, I'd imagine paper clips would work really well. lay a bunch of them completely flat and check to see if they get moved. Best part is, for clean up, you just need a magnet.

It's also go the advantage of being reusable in other rooms if you rule one room out.

I still have no way to get them 8 feet back into a tiny wall space.

You really can't imagine what a nightmare of endless, inaccessible "tunnels" this place is.

I couldn't either until this little jerk got loose.

When winter comes, I bet he'll change his mind about how neato it is, being "Easy Slider".

[mackynz]

The only thing I can think of if he is in your walls is that once fall or winter roll around he might come out seeking a heat source. Depending on if it gets cold where you live.

But don't give up hope! And remember, just because he wasn't in a spot last time you looked doesn't me he won't be tomorrow (Although I'm sure you have been re-checking everywhere)