Hey Jason, No offense intended with this thread! Had I known you were a member here i would have came directly to you with my questions. I have issues buying online without getting all the info I can before contacting the op on a classified ad. the pics you posted on here are much easier to see then the zoomed in ones on kingsnake. I thank you very much for jumping in and offering the information on these animals. I sincerely appologize if you have been offended.