who feeds in separate containers??

[BFE Pets]

Before I knew better I used to. Now I feed right in there rack. No real issues with it. saves a boat load of time with 30+ snakes

[kayrussell]

i feed them in a separate enclosure so they dont mistaken me for a hopper!!

[Kaorte]

I feed all three of mine in a sep tub. They live in a 40 gal terrarium, I take one out at a time and feed them. When I am done feeding one, I wash my hands and reach in to grab the snake and place it back in its normal everyday enclosure. I have never been struck at by either 3 of my ball pythons.

I swear people just come on here to push our buttons

Digging up an old kinda controversial thread and then talking about your 3 ball pythons living in a tank all happy together?

Whatever your reasons are for keeping them together, I guarantee you it is an accident waiting to happen. Why risk the well being of your pets by keeping them together?

i feed them in a separate enclosure so they dont mistaken me for a hopper!!

Please, educate me on how that would happen? By moving to another enclosure you are just giving your snake more opportunities to bite you. What does the enclosure have to do with how your hand smells?

[mackynz]

2) Let's say you move your snake to a feeding tub and successfully feed him. Now you have to move a snake that's in feeding mode back to its regular enclosure. Tell me again how you don't want to have a snake associate your hand with feeding time

3) If you use long tongs or hemostats to introduce the prey (which is recommended) how can they associate food with your hand?

I think that it's less of an association with a hand and more of an association with the opening of the cage something entering it (Hand, food, etc.)

More of a "Something is coming in, that means food." rather than a "I see hands when I am going to get food so these must be food."

Like how Pavlov's dogs associated the bell ringing with food, not just seeing the hand that rings the bell.

[Kaorte]

I think that it's less of an association with a hand and more of an association with the opening of the cage something entering it (Hand, food, etc.)

More of a "Something is coming in, that means food." rather than a "I see hands when I am going to get food so these must be food."

Like how Pavlov's dogs associated the bell ringing with food, not just seeing the hand that rings the bell.

The point is, there is no association. Ball pythons associate the smell of rodents with being fed, not the smell of your hand. They are primarily smell driven.

I stick my hand in my snakes enclosure nearly every day except for feeding day. Only been bitten once, and that was when I was removing an uneaten rodent from a tub.

[ktint]

I think this is the difference of general practice between all pro snake keepers and hard headed newbies. Almost all of the experience snake keepers and breeders feed in the same enclosures and keep their snakes separate from each other.
I am a newbie but not hard headed one. The funniest ideas came from those people with cats and dogs and had very little experience with snakes. They see dogs and cats are happy to cuddle, play and run, so snakes will be the same way as dogs and cats!!!!
I want my snake to be less aggressive when I or other people are handling. People handle their snake outside of the cage not inside the cage. so, here is the educated question. If there is a thing called cage aggression, do you want your snake to be aggressive inside the cage or outside of the cage when you or other people handle the snake? Remember, people handle their snake outside of the cage.

[rabernet]

I think that it's less of an association with a hand and more of an association with the opening of the cage something entering it (Hand, food, etc.)

More of a "Something is coming in, that means food." rather than a "I see hands when I am going to get food so these must be food."

Like how Pavlov's dogs associated the bell ringing with food, not just seeing the hand that rings the bell.

Since I'm going into the enclosures all the time, there's no reason for them to assume I'm feeding them every time.

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[mackynz]

Since I'm going into the enclosures all the time, there's no reason for them to assume I'm feeding them every time.

And feeding isn't the thing that most excites yours? Isn't the thing it would be looking for when noticing someone entering the cage?


I am not trying to say they will associate it as a fact, it's all really up in the air. Maybe I'll try conditioning mine and get back to you guys

[LLLReptile]

And feeding isn't the thing that most excites yours? Isn't the thing it would be looking for when noticing someone entering the cage?


I am not trying to say they will associate it as a fact, it's all really up in the air. Maybe I'll try conditioning mine and get back to you guys

I don't understand what the argument is here; are you still trying to say that the numerous breeders and folks with extensive experience are all mistaken in feeding their snakes in their enclosures?

I feel the point was clearly made early on in the thread with Slim's post, and then a handful of add ons from other experienced keepers, myself included. Why keep beating a dead horse?

-Jen

[mackynz]

I was just trying to say that I think that people who believe feeding in their cage is a bad idea probably think it's an association with with anything entering the cage, rather than the hand itself. I wasn't trying to prove him wrong or anything.

The latter part was intended as a joke, about attempting to train my snake.

Nevermind