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    Re: Lesser/platty question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzys Keeper View Post
    Im not saying lessers are recessive. The original snake which was the dad of the first lessers is thought to carry 2 genes, 1 being "lesser,and the other being the unknown gene to which my question pertains to
    as far as I know you are correct. the original platinum, when bred to a normal female, produced only lessers and normal-looking offspring that were 'het for platinum.' in order to produce a true platinum, you'd have to pair a typical lesser with a 'het daddy' to use RDR's terminology.

    I asked a similar question not long ago about whether the platinum 'hidden gene' is allelic with the entire leucistic complex and it seems to be. I know I saw a clutch of 'mojave daddy' offspring on bush league from a mojave x het platinum pairing.

    I think using the term 'hidden gene' is a misnomer but the normal looking offspring from a platinum do indeed produce a different snake when paired with a lesser. I also don't know why there isn't more work being done with the platinums themselves. perhaps mr. davis keeps those stock back more than not or perhaps there just isn't sufficient interest when lessers already look as great as they do.

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    Re: Lesser/platty question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzys Keeper View Post
    So what if u breed daddy to something else. Could effect it has on lessers be applied to something else?
    In theory any genes in the bel complex would be your best bet, but it could have an effect with any gene, don't know til you try

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    Re: Lesser/platty question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzys Keeper View Post
    So what if u breed daddy to something else. Could effect it has on lessers be applied to something else?
    that is the exact question I had not too long ago. I believe serpent nirvana directed me to a link from someone who produced a 'butter daddy' from a non-RDR butter. I cannot recall which thread or who the breeder was though.

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    Re: Lesser/platty question?

    Quote Originally Posted by wwmjkd View Post
    . I also don't know why there isn't more work being done with the platinums themselves. perhaps mr. davis keeps those stock back more than not or perhaps there just isn't sufficient interest when lessers already look as great as they do.
    Or the 2k price tag on a near normal looking snake which is hard to ID without having other genes with it

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    Re: Lesser/platty question?

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    Or the 2k price tag on a near normal looking snake which is hard to ID without having other genes with it
    indeed.

    I am interested to know more though. might well be worth it one day. I don't see a great deal of difference between buying a 'het' platinum and investing in a pair of expensive double hets.

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    I too would like to see what else it can do with other morphs down the road. would be curious if the same thing happened with the Coral glows and bananas.
    1.0 Normal Ball Python
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    0.1 Mojave Ball python
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    1.0 Jungle Carpet Python

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    Re: Lesser/platty question?

    Quote Originally Posted by wwmjkd View Post
    indeed.

    I am interested to know more though. might well be worth it one day. I don't see a great deal of difference between buying a 'het' platinum and investing in a pair of expensive double hets.
    Double hets = potentially much longer project lol. 1/16 odds can be hard to hit sometimes.

    Also another side note, daddy gene has also been mixed with phantom, rdr calls them phantom 44

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    Re: Lesser/platty question?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    Double hets = potentially much longer project lol. 1/16 odds can be hard to hit sometimes.

    Also another side note, daddy gene has also been mixed with phantom, rdr calls them phantom 44
    that's right, I'd forgotten about the 44s.

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