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    Re: Can you breed any time of the year successfully?

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher De Leon View Post
    You can breed year round, but it depends on the cycle your females are on. Not all females develope follicles during "breeding season", so learning to correctly palpate will definately come in handy and let you know when its time to set the mood for certain females.
    Dude, say we already know and set the mood for those certain females, in terms of their follicles growth, the thing is...what if we dont have any males that ready to breed in that 'unusual' breeding season Or perhaps all our males already bred all year round. Do our males would know if certain females are ready to be bred? Cheers

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    Re: Can you breed any time of the year successfully?

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    Dude, say we already know and set the mood for those certain females, in terms of their follicles growth, the thing is...what if we dont have any males that ready to breed in that 'unusual' breeding season Or perhaps all our males already bred all year round. Do our males would know if certain females are ready to be bred? Cheers
    Even though you probably could breed a male year round, you shouldnt. Like females, they need some down time too. Males who are bred too often will either lose interest in breeding -OR WORSE- keep breeding strong and lose an interest in food and start losing weight.

    If you have or find a large male willing to breed year round and he continues to eat well and maintain or gain weight, then i dont see anything wrong with that as long as you give him long and frequent resting periods between pairings.
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    So if I were to pick up some normal breeder ladies that laid say last month it would probably be wise to wait until the normal breeding season to start pairing them again as opposed to pairing in October, yes?
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    Re: Can you breed any time of the year successfully?

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    So if I were to pick up some normal breeder ladies that laid say last month it would probably be wise to wait until the normal breeding season to start pairing them again as opposed to pairing in October, yes?
    Well, technically breeding season starts in Oct/Nov or so. An example, I started pairing in Oct and I didnt get my first clutch until April 9th. As long as my female puts back on all her weight(and hopefully more), she will be ready to start being paired again in Oct.

    Breeding is a year long process even when you only breed in season. Its takes a lot of effort and patience and to be sucessful and keep your animals healthy you must educate yourself. Even though BPs are considered readily breedable, its more than just slappin some snakes together and producing. My advice is do as much research as you have time to. Read, watch videos, ask questions in the forums,and make friends with other herpers. If the hobby doesnt become an addiction, youre not doing it right. Lol.
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    Ok a lot of the things I have read has people starting to pair their snakes dec 1, but a lot of that also says they start temp drops nov 1. so I assumed the "normal breeding season" began at that time for most breeders but I saw someone post something about pairing in Oct and, well I just purchased a couple of normal breeder females that laid last month and so I was wondering if Oct would be ok to start pairing them again.... Thanks!
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    Re: Can you breed any time of the year successfully?

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    Well, technically breeding season starts in Oct/Nov or so. An example, I started pairing in Oct and I didnt get my first clutch until April 9th. As long as my female puts back on all her weight(and hopefully more), she will be ready to start being paired again in Oct.

    Breeding is a year long process even when you only breed in season. Its takes a lot of effort and patience and to be sucessful and keep your animals healthy you must educate yourself. Even though BPs are considered readily breedable, its more than just slappin some snakes together and producing. My advice is do as much research as you have time to. Read, watch videos, ask questions in the forums,and make friends with other herpers. If the hobby doesnt become an addiction, youre not doing it right. Lol.
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    Re: Can you breed any time of the year successfully?

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    Yes the v shape back thing comes after ovy.
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    Females are viable to breed when they have appropriately sized follicles. Most Ball python females will start cycling in the winter and spring months, but others will cycle at other times of the year.

    Using an ultrasound helps to measure follicle size and find this window of viability.

    If a female is going to develop follicles in July, it isn't going to do any good to pair her up in January.

    Pairing Balls up year round "just in case" causes stress issues and can affect appetite, health and growth. You really only want to pair the female up when she is viable.

    We have had eggs laid in December, and in January. As well as every month in between. Most clutches are laid during the typical season, but given a large enough sample, you can see clutches year round. That doesn't mean you can force a female that might normally cycle in an off month, like October, and get her to cycle in March, it just means you have to catch her in October, and get the pairing done.

    Males can breed year round, but that is also a physical drain. You have to make sure they stay well fed, and don't literally burn themselves out. I have had a male that breeds 10 different females one season, really any cycling female you put him with, and then the following season breed exactly zero. Just no interest. Not sure if that is male cycling, or he was just wore out.

    It is all one big match game- willing male with viable female, at whatever time of the year that is : )

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    My last clutch of 2011 hatched December 2nd. I have new clutches that hatched about 3-4 weeks ago.
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